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Scientists racing to find a vaccine for the Wuhan coronavirus are hoping a cutting-edge approach called “rapid response platforms” will quickly yield a breakthrough. WSJ’s Jason Bellini explains what these are and how they work.

 

Since 2003 the world has faced three outbreaks caused by the coronavirus family. But a vaccine was absent during the outbreak of SARS, and MERS, and very likely, this time too. But it's not all bad news. What many people don't realize, is that over past 17 years, the time it takes to develop a vaccine has drastically shortened.

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Quarantined passengers sent home after complaints

QUARANTINED IN CEBU. Some Filipinos who arrived from Taiwan this week have been put on a 14-day quarantine in an evacuation center in Barangay Apas, Cebu City. They complain that the evacuation center is dirty and has no power and water supply. Taiwan is among the list of areas with travel restrictions imposed by the Philippine government to curb the spread of the novel coronavirus, which causes the disease now known as Covid-19.

February 14, 2020

GOV. Gwendolyn Garcia said the Mactan-Cebu International Airport Authority already made travel arrangements for quarantined passengers from Mindanao to go home.

They’re better off leaving instead of constantly complaining about the state of the quarantine facility, she said.

Some 21 quarantined persons from Mindanao were supposed to leave on a PAL (Philippine Airlines) flight to Davao City Thursday night, Feb. 13, 2020.

Two Filipinos from Taiwan, who were placed in a 14-day quarantine in Barangay Apas, Cebu CIty, approached a SunStar Cebu photographer who was taking photos of the facility’s facade Thursday morning, Feb. 13, 2020.

Jay, not his real name, said the facility lacks electricity and water.

“Aside from that, the bathrooms are clogged. Plus, we’re not allowed to give interviews. Everything is forbidden. But if the facility’s amenities are not ready, then they should let us go. In fact, there is no proper monitoring,” he said in Tagalog.

“We are in the dark, literally. And now we’re supposed to make our travel arrangements upon our release. We are from Davao City. The local government here in Cebu has done nothing to help. They told us we are supposed to contact our LGU (local government unit) in Davao so we can go home. Please help us,” a girl who asked not to be named said.

Department of Health (DOH) Central Visayas Director Jaime Bernadas clarified that Filipinos from Taiwan who have been placed in quarantine are persons under monitoring (PUMs) and do not have symptoms of the coronavirus disease (Covid-19). There are specific quarantine instructions they have to follow under the watchful eye of quarantine personnel, he said.

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Garcia said the travelers from Mindanao should have understood that the facility in Barangay Apas was all the Province could provide.

“It has water. It just so happened that we ran out. There is also electricity. We prepared as best as we can. We cleaned the facility. Maybe it’s just not up to their standard. Maybe they were expecting a mansion. At any rate, we’ve made arrangements for them to go home to Davao City and some to Iligan,” the governor said in Cebuano.

Thirty passengers were interned in Barangay Apas because the DOH facility and the Women and Children’s Center were already full. The Province offered to place them in a facility in the southwestern town of Pinamungajan, but they refused.

Garcia said some hotels offered to take them in but the passengers would have to pay for the accommodation.

“Magbayad sila kay na-anad man sila og hotel accomodation kaha, pero bayad sila kay sobra naman sad kaayo nga katawhan naman gani sa Sugbo naggasto ani nila, paggastohon pa gyud ug level nga first-class accomodation. Mao ra may makaya nato ron. Dili man sab sila mobayad (The Province can’t afford to put them up in hotels. These quarantined passengers can’t expect the people of Cebu to pay for a first-class accommodation. That’s all the Province could afford, and they’re not being asked to pay for it),” she said.

She said the Province already spends not less than P300 daily for the food of each quarantined passenger, excluding their other needs.

As for the patients under investigation (PUIs), the DOH 7 said 27 were still in the hospital, while 124 persons under monitoring (PUMs) were either placed in a home or a quarantine facility.

The governor said the quarantined passengers flying to Davao City would occupy the back of the plane, with four rows separating them from regular passengers, to ensure the safety of everyone.

“I don’t know anymore. Maybe they have a ticket padung didto (going there),” Garcia said.

In a Balitang Bisdak interview, one of the passengers said the Provincial Government told them they had to shoulder their airfare if they wanted to fly home.

Meanwhile, Office of the Presidential Assistant for the Visayas Secretary Michael Dino urged overseas Filipino workers from Taiwan who refused to be placed under quarantine to heed the government order for the sake of public safety.

There was a commotion at the Mactan airport Wednesday, Feb. 12, when 78 Filipino passengers from Taiwan insisted on going home.

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Some of them even threatened to file charges against airport officials and the DOH for restraining their liberty.

During a press conference at the Police Regional Office 7, Dino said that even though the passengers didn’t have fever or display any flu-like symptoms, they still had to be placed under quarantine to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

“They came from a quarantinable place, so they have to be quarantined. So I hope they also understand. This is to protect not only yourself but also the Cebuanos or the Filipino community for that matter. You’re even protecting also your family. Can you imagine, kung naa ka, dili ka magpa-quarantine. Puyo ka sa inyu. Sigurado affected ang imong tibuok pamilya (if you refused to be quarantined and it turns out you have the virus, you end up infecting your whole family),” he said.

Dino said no one wants to be placed under quarantine because it’s a lot of hassle, adding that it’s also costing the government a lot in terms of expenses.

“They probably think it’s easy to place people in a quarantine, but it’s not. But we have to do it. We have no choice. We have to bring them from the airport to the destination (quarantine facility). Once they get there, we have to take care of them. We have to provide them with food and lodging,” he said in a mix of Cebuano and English.

Airport authorities have sought the help of police after last Wednesday’s incident.

Brig. Gen. Albert Ignatius Ferro, PRO 7 director, said he has deployed a 14-man quick reaction team whose members have a medical background in the airport.

“Aside from personnel from the Lapu-Lapu City police, we also deployed 12 personnel from the Regional Mobile Force Battalion in the airport,” Ferro said.

When Ferro said the police deployed in the airport didn’t have any protective gear, Dino said he would make a request from Malacañang. (WBS, ANV, AYB / PJB )

 

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That quarantine site sounds a bit like Monty Python’s cheese shop😄 - “We have water, but it ran out”

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Comparison update from 9 hrs ago and now

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

66900 total

1523 deaths

8074 recovered

still upward trend in numbers

The novel coronavirus (COVID-19) is affecting 29 countries and territories around the world.  Still no cases in Mexico reported.  

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53 minutes ago, hyaku said:

Read the article - my impression

"Hey guys! we hired this expert to give us a pep talk using facts that while true are very misleadingly presented"

What he says might be true about static surface transmission BUT even if it's 100 F outside, sun is shining, with 100% humidity, and a person infected sneezes at you or within 1.7 Km? of you - you can get it

10 min x 10 Km/hr = 1.6666 / 1 mile
 

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https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/how-far-do-coughs-and-sneezes-travel/

But according to research by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it's not just the person next to us we should worry about: coughing spreads droplets as far as six metres, and sneezing as much as eight metres. These droplets stay suspended in the air for up to 10 minutes.

 

 

 

 

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There are no human rights if the gov't says "quarantine", not that I have ANY faith in ANY gov't.  Deep down they know they cannot let this place turn into another China meltdown scenario or this country is lost.  Unfortunately, just like everything here, it's 80% alright, but that last 20% would make it first world, but that never happens.

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9 minutes ago, MarinePride said:

There are no human rights if the gov't says "quarantine", not that I have ANY faith in ANY gov't.  Deep down they know they cannot let this place turn into another China meltdown scenario or this country is lost.  Unfortunately, just like everything here, it's 80% alright, but that last 20% would make it first world, but that never happens.

You're correct - no one has the right to knowingly infect or possibly infect others if there is strong evidence of that probability.

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https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/None-of-Japan-s-new-coronavirus-patients-had-direct-China-links?fbclid=IwAR2R4nzZ2qHoyoAkWLeszo9uXhKlvjcwSIAshjgU4quZfxbtcY1qKMyGfMo

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None of Japan's new coronavirus patients had direct China links

First death raises fear that virus is quietly spreading

YOSUKE KURABE, Nikkei staff writerFEBRUARY 13, 2020 22:37 JST  UPDATED ON FEBRUARY 14, 2020 04:52 JST

People seen during the morning commute in Osaka, Japan. (Photo by Toshiki Sasazu)

TOKYO -- Japan's first domestic coronavirus victim and three patients newly confirmed Thursday had no direct connections to China, raising concerns that a stealth outbreak is already under way in the country. 

The Japanese government said Thursday that a Kanagawa Prefecture woman in her 80s died from the coronavirus. Her son-in-law also tested positive for the disease. Additionally, a doctor in Wakayama Prefecture and a man in Chiba Prefecture are confirmed to have the virus. None of them traveled to China recently or had contact with people who visited Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak.

Those cases raise new challenges for health officials, who until now had been trying to contain the virus by closely monitoring people with the possibility of contracting the disease. If more people with no direct links to China become sick, determining infection routes will become impossible. Instead of containment, treating seriously sick people may have to become the priority.

"We will formulate a necessary response after consulting with experts," Katsunobu Kato, Japan's health minister, said in announcing the woman's death in a late-night news conference Thursday. 

Kato added that "there is no epidemiological data suggesting a domestic [coronavirus] epidemic."

Katsunobu Kato, Japan's health minister, confirmed on Feb. 13 the first death in Japan from the coronavirus.

The woman's symptoms began Jan. 22 when she felt fatigue, the health ministry said. Symptoms worsened on Jan. 25, prompting her to see a doctor three days later. She was placed under observation.

The victim was hospitalized Feb. 1, diagnosed with pneumonia. She underwent screening for the coronavirus Wednesday. The test results came back positive Thursday, the day she died.

Her son-in-law also tested positive for the coronavirus. The man, a taxi driver in his 70s living in Tokyo, has been hospitalized since Feb. 6, but the symptoms are reportedly mild. He developed a fever Jan. 29.

According to the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, the driver said he did not pick up a foreign passenger in the past 14 days -- the believed incubation period for the virus.

Meanwhile, a doctor in Wakayama Prefecture south of Osaka has been infected with the virus, prefectural officials said Thursday. The man, in his 50s, has been hospitalized with symptoms of pneumonia, but is otherwise in stable condition.

The doctor did not travel outside the country in the 14 days prior to the onset of symptoms, nor can any contact with people coming from China be confirmed. Wakayama officials suspect the infection had domestic origins.

Saiseikai Arida Hospital, where the doctor works, has stopped taking in new patients. Another doctor working at the hospital, along with two patients who saw doctors there, are reportedly suspected of having contracted the virus.

The doctor who tested positive initially had a slight fever Jan. 31. He took fever medication between Monday and Wednesday of the next week while working.

The fever rose to 38 C on Saturday, and a CT scan revealed symptoms of pneumonia. A coronavirus test on Thursday came back positive.

Elsewhere, a man in his 20s from Chiba Prefecture near Tokyo is also confirmed to have the virus. He developed a fever and other symptoms Feb. 2. The man reportedly has not traveled overseas or had contact with other infected individuals.

Besides the outbreak on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which has infected over 200 people aboard the vessel quarantined in Yokohama, 29 cases of coronavirus had been confirmed inside Japan through Wednesday.

The latest cases likely surfaced due to the health ministry's expanded guidelines for reporting data. The ministry sent a notice Feb. 7 asking medical facilities to perform "flexible" testing for potential cases.

"It wouldn't surprise me if the infection is spreading below the surface," said Hiroyoshi Endo, dean of the graduate school of public health at St. Luke's International University in Tokyo. "It's necessary to quickly strengthen the testing preparedness at the national level, while making considerations for the on-site workload."

 

 

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"Maybe it’s just not up to their standard. Maybe they were expecting a mansion. "

Quite the character that governer is. Filipinos tend to be used to rather basic standards, so this place must have been really bad.

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24 minutes ago, savarity said:

"Maybe it’s just not up to their standard. Maybe they were expecting a mansion. "

Quite the character that governer is. Filipinos tend to be used to rather basic standards, so this place must have been really bad.

They were out of country so probably had a taste of the good life.

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