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lamoe
4 minutes ago, JohnSurrey said:

Agree - unfortunately that kind of control - similar to China's - over people / news / internet - is like a tax - once you let a government have it, it's almost impossible to get rid of it.

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From an on line Senior's website which I'm a Member  https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/health/covid19/glasses-cut-covid-infections-study? This although not conclusive I found interesting as

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lamoe

Tata just said to me "Did you know China is virus free?"

Where did you read that?

"It's on  Youtube from China"

 

 

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BEIJING -- Chinese experts, based on the result of clinical trials, have confirmed that Chloroquine Phosphate, an antimalarial drug, has a certain curative effect on the coronavirus disease (Covid-19), a Chinese official said here Monday.


The experts have "unanimously" suggested the drug be included in the next version of the treatment guidelines and applied in wider clinical trials as soon as possible, Sun Yanrong, deputy head of the China National Center for Biotechnology Development under the Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST), said at a press conference.

Chloroquine Phosphate, which has been used for more than 70 years, was selected from tens of thousands of existing drugs after multiple rounds of screening, Sun said.

According to her, the drug has been under clinical trials in over 10 hospitals in Beijing, as well as in south China's Guangdong Province and central China's Hunan Province, and has shown fairly good efficacy.

In the trials, the groups of patients who had taken the drug have shown better indicators than their parallel groups, in statement of fever, improvement of CT images of lungs, the percentage of patients who became negative in viral nucleic acid tests and the time they need to do so, she said.

Patients taking the drug also take a shorter time to recover, she added.

Sun gave an example of a 54-year-old patient in Beijing, who was admitted to hospital four days after showing symptoms. After taking the drug for a week, he saw all indicators improve and the nucleic acid turn negative.

 

So far, no obvious serious adverse reactions related to the drug have been found among the over 100 patients enrolled in the clinical trials, she said.

On Feb. 15, several departments including the MOST, the National Health Commission and the National Medical Products Administration called a video conference to listen to drug research and clinical experts' opinions on the drug's efficacy on Covid-19.

The expert team, led by Zhong Nanshan, a renowned respiratory specialist and an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, agreed that Chloroquine Phosphate can be used to treat more Covid-19 patients, Sun said.

Previous in vitro experiments showed that it can block virus infections by changing the acidity and basicity value inside the cell and interfering receptors of SARS coronavirus.

It also shows immune-modulating activity, which may enhance its antiviral effect in vivo and is widely distributed in the whole body, including the lungs, after oral administration.

WHO, China begin field inspections

A joint expert team consisting of experts from China and the World Health Organization on Monday began field inspections on the prevention and control of the Covid-19. 

The expert team will go to Beijing, Guangdong Province and Sichuan Province to conduct inspections, said Mi Feng, spokesperson for the National Health Commission (NHC), at a press conference on Monday.

A symposium was held by the NHC Sunday, which was attended by nearly 80 people, including joint expert team members and representatives from the State Council's joint prevention and control mechanism, Mi said.

At the symposium, NHC deputy director Li Bin briefed attendees on nationwide prevention and control measures, vowed to work with the international community to address the challenge of the epidemic and welcomed suggestions from the expert team, according to Mi.

Representatives from State Council ministries and administrations introduced their prevention and control work. The attendees talked with Hubei, the virus-hit province, during a teleconference, and discussed the epidemic situation, control and prevention measures in communities and rural areas, wildlife management and drug and vaccine development.

The joint expert team acknowledged China's prevention and control measures, as well as the dedication of Chinese medical workers, Mi said. (Xinhua)

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1094088

 

 

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lamoe

Interesting time line

2 hours ago, fred42 said:


On Feb. 15, several departments including the MOST, the National Health Commission and the National Medical Products Administration called a video conference to listen to drug research and clinical experts' opinions on the drug's efficacy on Covid-19.

 

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Could be the answer......... 

The US is fast-tracking antimalarial drugs for use as a treatment against the new coronavirus.

The move follows encouraging early results in France and China.

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have not been given a formal green light in the US to fight the pandemic, but the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said it would work with domestic makers to expand production as it studied their efficacy.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124048-coronavirus-us/

 

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8 hours ago, lamoe said:

Tata just said to me "Did you know China is virus free?"

Where did you read that?

"It's on  Youtube from China"

Think Tata may have misunderstood a recent post by @Headshot in the Science forum, where the doctor  said there were no reported new cases in Huan  Province.

Same post reports that China is now sending its scientists to Italy to assist there.

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10 hours ago, GBT62 said:

American backpackers in Australia are defying social distancing rules, saying they can “handle” the coronavirus because they’re young.

Not only the septic sacks. Have met a few Ozzie Oldies who also think we are immune.

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10 minutes ago, mikewright said:

... Have met a few Ozzie Oldies who also think we are immune.

Not worrying, or not making a big fuss about something something, doesn't mean someone thinks they are immune...

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27 minutes ago, mikewright said:

Have met a few Ozzie Oldies who also think we are immune.

We have very few figures about age distribution, older are more vulnaberal

In Italy the age distribution as of now is:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103023/coronavirus-cases-distribution-by-age-group-italy/

We do not know now. From https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

the death rate steadily went up from 7% to 10%. Lets see still a lot of active cases, but as of now from 9 recovery one will die.

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15 minutes ago, Salty Dog said:

Not worrying, or not making a big fuss about something something, doesn't mean someone thinks they are immune...

Exactly. But it suggests they think it won't affect them too much, which is probably correct.

But as they are not immune, they pass it on to others with a less healthy immune system, with the result we now see in Italy and the US.

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I remember the little white pill and the big orange one years later they claimed one could cause cancer faster

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That was February....(certain curative....)

8 hours ago, fred42 said:

has a certain curative effect on the coronavirus disease (Covid-19)

Well lets when early results come out around Sept to October. 

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12 hours ago, fred42 said:

Chloroquine Phosphate, an antimalarial drug, has a certain curative effect on the coronavirus disease

Chloroquine has some nasty side effects; not something to take lightly or self-administer. I've seen people using it a a prophylactic to deter malaria go a bit crazy. 

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5 hours ago, BossHog said:

Chloroquine has some nasty side effects; not something to take lightly or self-administer. I've seen people using it a a prophylactic to deter malaria go a bit crazy. 

While you are correct about not self-administering, the course of Hydroxychloroquine for treatment of the Wuhan Coronavirus being recommended is only five days long (one day 400mg. twice a day and four days 200mg. twice a day. All of the studies that showed adverse effects were for long-term use. Nevertheless, you shouldn't take this medication (or any other) unless prescribed by a doctor.

BTW, I checked with Rose Pharmacy to see if they even have it, and they are out of stock and no idea when then will get more stock in. They said they have a request for more Hydroxychloroquine in with their supplier (probably in China). Hydroxychloroquine is a milder form of Chloroquine with less adverse effects. This is one of those medications in the Philippines that you can only get with a prescription.

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This is one of those medications in the Philippines that you can only get with a prescription.


Hell I guess we are lucky we can even buy vitamins over the counter here lol


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