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A thread on this subject last year showed plenty of interest either for or against. 

It now seems to have been clarified. 

Although of course what constitutes a resident?., Tourist, Balakbayan, 13a, SSRV, 

 

 

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to_dave007

Lawmakers have passed a bill?..  what bill?

would be good to get the card..  but only if it's legit.

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lamoe

More on requirements

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https://ofwmoney.org/senior-citizen/

 

Guide to Foreigner to get a Senior Citizen Card in the Philippines

All the requirements that they need to submit are as follows:

ID card issued by the Office of the Senior Citizens Affairs in the place where they reside

A Philippine Retirement Authority identification card;

An Alien Certificate of Registration I-Card;

And other documents that establish that the resident alien is at least 60 years old and a Philippine resident.

How much is a senior citizen ID card?

You can get a senior citizen card in the Philippines for free.

As explained, there is no fee to pay for applying for a senior citizen I.D. card.

 

 

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Jawny

I don’t recall reading where this proposed bill made it out of committee. 

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Woolf

this has been up here before

at that time the bill had not been signed

and I have not seen or heard that it has been sighed until now 

please show us the bill signed

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Woolf

Here is the bill

IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED

https://www.senate.gov.ph/lisdata/112729581!.pdf

if signed it is only for residents     e.i. not for those on tourist visas nor for BBs

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SkyMan
19 minutes ago, Woolf said:

Here is the bill

IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED

https://www.senate.gov.ph/lisdata/112729581!.pdf

if signed it is only for residents     e.i. not for those on tourist visas nor for BBs

There's a newer version but also not signed.

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Woolf
2 minutes ago, Davaoeno said:

It was never passed into law !! 

What was never passed in law  ???

The "expanded senior citezens act of 2003" was

as far as I know the the bill including allians was not

there is another law for senior cittizens

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/research/Philippines/RA 9994 - The Expanded Senior Citizens Act.pdf

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hyaku
42 minutes ago, Woolf said:

 

This is what I found

"Expanded Senior Citizens Act of 2003."

http://www.chanrobles.com/republicactno9257.htm#.XOetvMgzZhE

It does not clarify what a "citizen" is. To the best of my knowledge you have to be born here to a citizen. Or of a Filipino parent.

 

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Woolf
1 minute ago, hyaku said:

It does not clarify what a "citizen" is. To the best of my knowledge you have to be born here to a citizen. Or of a Filipino parent.

 

 there is a senate bill to include aliens 

that indicates to me that that foreigners are NOT included in any of the senior citizens benefit laws

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SkyMan
55 minutes ago, Woolf said:

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/research/Philippines/RA 9994 - The Expanded Senior Citizens Act.pdf

 

19 minutes ago, hyaku said:

It does not clarify what a "citizen" is. To the best of my knowledge you have to be born here to a citizen. Or of a Filipino parent.

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Section 3. Section 2 of Republic Act No. 7432, as amended by Republic Act No. 9257, otherwise known as the Expanded Senior Citizens Act of 2003", is hereby further amended to read as follows:

SEC. 2. Definition of terms. - For purposes of this Act, these terms are defined as follows:

"(a) Senior citizen or elderly refers to any resident citizen of the Philippines at least sixty (60) years old;

"(b) Geriatrics refer to the branch of medical science devoted to the study of t....

 

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35 minutes ago, hyaku said:

It does not clarify what a "citizen" is. To the best of my knowledge you have to be born here to a citizen. Or of a Filipino parent.

That isn't quite right. The Philippines does not recognize citizenship solely by physical birth in the Philippines. If two foreigners give birth to a child in the Philippines, the child is NOT a Philippine citizen. The Philippines only recognizes citizenship due to at least one of the parents being a Philippine citizen at the time of birth (regardless of place of birth). A child can be born on the other side of the planet and still considered a Philippine citizen as long as one of the parents is a Philippine citizen (of course, the birth must be certified by a Philippine embassy and registered with PSA to qualify for citizenship if the birth takes place outside of the Philippines).

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cookie47

OK, Below is the link to the site I got my info. 

As it is dated 2019, I "assumed" (poor choice) it was correct and enacted into law. 

If I'm wrong I'll go back to my Knitting. 

Tab well down until it mentions foreigners. 

 

 

https://ofwmoney.org/senior-citizen/

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Dafey

That's it @cookie47...for the crime of posting fake news, you are banned from posting for the next 30 seconds or metric minute...whichever comes first

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cookie47

@Dafey
No problem at all..

I waited 30 seconds before giving you a like,,, haha.

BTW, was it fake news, my misunderstanding, old age,, I've looked at the site AGAIN???

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M.C.A.

My wife turned 60 Philippine citizen so I thought let's get her that Senior Citizens card and boy did we waste our time they wouldn't give her a card because she's married to a foreigner.

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cookie47
My wife turned 60 Philippine citizen so I thought let's get her that Senior Citizens card and boy did we waste our time they wouldn't give her a card because she's married to a foreigner.
Well, that's totally opposite to my wife's situation.She went to the "local" Barangay office (on her own) filled out forms, ( she says cant remember any questions relating to foreign spouse, wala, Card delivered personally by President of Seniors accociation who knows me and visits for coffee regularly.

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M.C.A.
5 minutes ago, cookie47 said:

Well, that's totally opposite to my wife's situation.She went to the "local" Barangay office (on her own) filled out forms, ( she says cant remember any questions relating to foreign spouse, wala, Card delivered personally by President of Seniors accociation who knows me and visits for coffee regularly.

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I never got involved once I never went with her she did this on her own and they were the ones that were aware she was married to a foreigner I also talked with a few of my neighbors and one was retired and collecting 3,000 pesos a month pension and he also wasn't allowed to get a Senior Citizens card.

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cookie47
I never got involved once I never went with her she did this on her own.
Yes sure,
I only mentioned it in passing as that's how it happened. I'm at a loss of what to say. Could it be like other government departments, try a different office.. Or is that not practical.

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SkyMan
3 hours ago, cookie47 said:
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The senior citizen act for foreigners is a senate bill that was passed last May 11, 2018 Senate S.B. No. 2832. 

It may have passed the Senate but not signed.  Also, the date on SB 2832 is '11 May 18 meaning May 18, 2011.

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https://www.senate.gov.ph/lis/bill_res.aspx?congress=15&q=SBN-2832

Legislative status

Pending in the Committee (5/23/2011)

 

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Woolf

 

I wonder if this is correct,      anyway good idea to read this article in full

https://www.moneymax.ph/government-services/articles/senior-citizen-discount-philippines/

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Seniors must present their senior citizen ID, issued by the Office of the Senior Citizen Affairs (OSCA), to avail of their privileges under the Senior Citizen Act. But without it, they’re still entitled to a senior citizen discount, as long as they present their government-issued ID that shows their age.
Without an OSCA-issued ID, elderly customers may show any of the following valid IDs:

Passport

SSS ID or UMID card

GSIS ID

Driver’s license

PRC ID

Voter’s ID

Postal ID

It’s illegal for businesses to honor only the senior citizen ID and refuse to give discounts when senior customers present another valid ID. In such a situation, seniors have the right to demand the discount due them.

 

 

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cookie47

Yes a big article, With many more discounts available than originally expected. 

I guess Skyman is correct and it hasn't been signed off as yet. The problem is that those news outlets and senior agencies and the like that publish this stuff can make it read as things are set in stone.

You sometimes need to be a lawyer before commenting.. 

Anyway If I've lead people on a wild goose chase I apologize, I thought it was a newsworthy article for those citizens that may be close to senior age, but as it been pointed out some apply and get rejected. 

Also it's not that I was advocating getting a discount at a Sari sari store which was discussed last year in great depth.

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Nice website. Unfortunately, they don't cite the law that changed the rules for a Philippine Senior citizen card. Until the law that changes the rules is cited, this is just somebody's opinion. As far as I know, the rules for getting a Philippine senior citizen card are... 

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Before applying for a senior citizen ID, make sure that you meet these qualifications:

You must be at least 60 years old.

You must be a Filipino citizen.

You must be a resident of your city for at least 6 months.

It doesn't say anywhere that an alien resident qualifies for this privilege. So, show us the new law that changes these rules ... if such a law exists. Otherwise, this is just misinformation. Bills have been submitted just about every year in the Philippine Congress to change the rules, but year after year the bills die in the process without becoming law. Nobody thus far has been able to cite an actual law that changed the rules.

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