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SkyMan
2 minutes ago, GBT62 said:

yeah - but the horizontal not standard vertical pins ? All the circuits here run the same 30A breakers .... it's just so you think they are wiring something special - AC guy admitted he had no idea why.

I have some of both.  The electrons don't care.

2 minutes ago, Jawny said:

Or, do what a local expert said. Find a place in a nearby wall you can chip into a piece of rebar....attach a wire.....run to to the third wire of the plug....GROUND!!!

Earth ground, yes, although not a great way to do it.  Might run your Ebill up too.

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Might be a good idea to check to see if you have the same going on. Our house has had electrical problems for a year or 2.  Kind of minor stuff but still known.  One indicator was the LED light o

Have not post here for quite awhile. When we built our house here the we specified to the electrician that we wanted grounding install. The supply voltage here is suppose to be 220 AC. but at any time

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3 hours ago, SkyMan said:

Might be a good idea to check to see if you have the same going on.

Our house has had electrical problems for a year or 2.  Kind of minor stuff but still known.  One indicator was the LED light over my desk would sometimes glow when it rains or is about to rain.  Another was the desktop computer crashing and rebooting, usually coincident with other electrical use such as the microwave turning on or the water pump.  I pretty much gave up trying to use it if the coffee maker or rice cooker were on.  I have a working UPS and the laptop isn't affected.  I've made some effort to track down the problem but don't have a lot of time for that and wasn't sure where to start.

Anyway, the ceiling fan in the bedroom stopped working a couple days ago.  No light, no fan.  It had done this a couple years back and one of the wires in the wall switch had come loose so I figured maybe the same thing.  When I got the switch out the wires were still connected but there was this dust bunny between the contacts.  I blew that out of there and the fan works.  Also, there's major improvement in the PC although it does reboot some.  I'm actually typing this with the coffee maker on.  So, now I'm going to go through all the other switches and outlets to see if there are any more electrical dust bunnies in the house.  No need to start any fires in the walls.  

Maybe some of you should look at doing the same?

i actually hired a Master Electrician +1 to redo the breaker box, breakers, all the wiring.  The wiring was done half-ass for at least a decade before I moved in.

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23 minutes ago, Soupeod said:

i actually hired a Master Electrician +1 to redo the breaker box, breakers, all the wiring.  The wiring was done half-ass for at least a decade before I moved in.

But have you opened the outlets to check for dust or vermin?

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Soupeod
2 hours ago, SkyMan said:

But have you opened the outlets to check for dust or vermin?

Yea got some new ones as well.

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1 hour ago, the.lone.gunman said:

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So you can keep your coffee hot while you shower. 

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When I moved in to renovate and upgrade all the wiring was the same colour. The actual drop cablen was six pieces of wire twisted together to connect to the house. There was this Frankenstein type power cutout with giant fuses. I went deep into the ground to put in three earth straps and three pin outlets/sockets. Main one was the kitchen. Definite tingle off things like a microwave unless it's grounded. In the house the worst thing was PCs. Again a tingle and a buzz off any speakers unless you use three pin. Every day power surges from a crap system. What other country in the world uses 220v with no earth? I cant find one.

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I have Battery UPS for my expensive Electronics installed - saves me a lot of nerves

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On 5/12/2019 at 8:57 AM, Goetz1965 said:

I have Battery UPS for my expensive Electronics installed - saves me a lot of nerves

PC s Sould have power surge protection. But yes, I have 4 UPS and time delay boxes on everything else.

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A little more to the story....  A couple weeks after I had the initial problem with the fan (dust in the light switch) the fan stopped working again.  I opened the switch and no new dust so I removed it and the wires were still connected well.  I disconnected it and opened the little switch box and there was dust inside as well.  Also, the little carbon contacts were all but gone so I'm wondering if bad contacts with the carbon caused it to burn out creating the dust.  I bent the little brass tabs to see if I could get a connection but my multimeter said chuck it so I did.  I wish I had kept the switch to pass the brand name on but all I can recall is that it was some off brand and I don't know where I bought it.  Anyway, new switch installed and the fan is fine.  Computer seems to be working.  No telling if the light will still glow as we haven't had much rain.

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Have not post here for quite awhile. When we built our house here the we specified to the electrician that we wanted grounding install. The supply voltage here is suppose to be 220 AC. but at any time it is only about 185-190 volts. So  i had a line transformer installed. Now i  have 220-230 volts coming in. All the outlets are the three pin type with grounding connected.  There are always brown outs or loss of power from the supplier. Recently after a brown out our refrigerator kept tripping the GFIC. outlet. This never happen before so i thought it was a problem with the unit. Called the local appliance company and they took it to their shop. A few days later called them and they told me the unit is working and they had to reset it. Sounded odd to me as i know there was nothing to reset. So anyway  they return the unit and left. Plug it in and breaker tripped. So now i thought i had a defective GFCI. Bought a new GFCI same problem. Plug the unit in to another circuit outlet without GFCI, it worked fine. So now i realise must be a problem in my circuit breaker supply panel. Removed the cover and retighten all circuit connections. Some screws i even got a full turn. Turned out that was the problem. The GFCI is very sensitive and the little extra current demand because of the not too loose connection caused it to trip.

Have been around electricity most of my life so that helps.  Just thought i would mention this here as some of you might have simular problem in the future.  

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Woolf

@loy

Where in ph are you ?

line transformer  You got your own pole trafo ??

do you have the american bulky breakers  or the din rail  ones ?

what  country did you live in before ph ?

 

anyway good idea to check the screws in the panel about once a year

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Woolf
7 hours ago, Woolf said:

anyway good idea to check the screws in the panel about once a year

just checked  my american style breaker panel,   hmmm    1 screw  to  close to 1 turn others  ok

was at a  30 amp breaker  for my bedroom aircon

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All my time living in the west, I can’t remember ever feeling the need to check the tightness of screws in the breaker box (nor using so much electricians tape!!). 
Here, I believed it right off the bat😀

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1 hour ago, Paddy said:

All my time living in the west, I can’t remember ever feeling the need to check the tightness of screws in the breaker box (nor using so much electricians tape!!). 
Here, I believed it right off the bat😀

Wire nuts (US) - twist-on wire connectors  - are called wire twisters here - not easy to find

3 reasons they come lose - poor installation, vibration, heat cycles

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/ot-electrical-panels-do-you-check-your-screws-315180/

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