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Any easy way for a Fil-Am family to live in the Philippines?

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bob_lyn
Just now, Jawny said:

To add to the above, check this link....

http://immigration.gov.ph/faqs/citizenship

 

I read that. But they said the website is wrong. Also, it's not as simple as that. The kids can only become Filipino through the DFA, not the DOJ. But doing so on Philippines soil is forbidden! Ugh! They make it so difficult. My kids eat and consume. I spend all my money on them. I pay rent. Taxes. And all that. They really want to waste money deporting us?

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Salty Dog

Bob you need to use the proper terminology when talking about money here.

The term bucks generally refers to dollars, not Peso. It a gigantic difference.

If you're talking about Peso, please say Peso or use the P in front of the amount P1000.

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4 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

But doing so on Philippines soil is forbidden! Ugh!

I don't think that's correct but even if it is, take the family to HK or KL or BKK and visit the Phils embassy while you're there 

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3 minutes ago, SkyMan said:

Once your wife has reacquired under RA 9225, then do the kids.

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And your wife most certainly qualifies.

No need to do them separately though.

The children can be added to the same application.

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Bob, the first lesson of living here is, if you don't like the answer one particular government official gives you, ask another one. Go with the answer you like best. They all have their own way of interpreting the law, as you have found out already.

 

 

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Just now, Jawny said:

Is this your reference ?

"Republic Act No. 9225, approved 29 August 2003, provided that natural-born citizens of the Philippines who had lost their Philippine citizenship by reason of their naturalization as citizens of a foreign country would be deemed to have re-acquired Philippine citizenship upon taking an oath of allegiance to the Republic, that their children whether legitimate, illegitimate or adopted, below eighteen (18) years of age, shall be deemed citizens of the Philippines, and that natural born citizens of the Philippines who become citizens of a foreign country subsequent to its inactment would retain their Philippine citizenship upon taking the oath.[11]"

No. My reference is from the BI:

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7 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

I read that. But they said the website is wrong. Also, it's not as simple as that. The kids can only become Filipino through the DFA, not the DOJ. 

 Could you clarify who "they" is?  It’s not surprising if a BI website is out of date or even incorrect.  However, if your sources (other than LinC) is someone only vaguely familiar with citizenship rulings, you should consider contact an immigration lawyer.  Maybe starting at the BI.

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Just now, SkyMan said:

Are you on SRRV or what?

13a permanent resident. Which I probably do not qualify for, being married to a foreigner :(

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Just now, shadow said:

Bob seems to be full of misinformation. Yes, the kids would be eligible under RA 9225 also;

http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php/services/citizenship-retention-and-aquisition/inclusion-of-dependents-under-r-a-9225

R/T flights to many Asian countries start around $30 each, certainly a long ways form a years salary for most.

Wrong again!

lol No offense, but you must be new in the Philippines if you are quoting the BI website. Can't go off their website. It's always wrong and never updated. I have no misinformation. Children were born after 2003, subject to the DOJ. They do not qualify, unless they are former Filipinos, or acquire via the DFA, outside the Philippines. lol Where does one get such cheap flights? lol

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10 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

13a permanent resident. Which I probably do not qualify for, being married to a foreigner :(

How/when did you get the 13a...

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The page you keep posting doesn't say the kids can't get it, just that it costs p12,500 each.  Or about $240.  Even if that includes the passports that's still a little high.  BKK embassy quotes $60 for the 9225 and same for the pp so $120 each.  HK embassy it as about $112 each.

 

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16 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

lol No offense, but you must be new in the Philippines...

Now that's funny. Shadow has lived here for many years.

Shadow owns and operates Pinoy Visa. If he says something, you can generally be sure it's correct.

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Just now, Salty Dog said:

I think Bob was referring to his children not being born before 2003...

You don't have to go back home. Just to some close SE Asian country.

Yeah. Plane tickets are just way too expensive. Even when you have a lot of money, it's just not enough for flights. We had not planned on leaving for 10 years or so. If ever. Damn. Never thought this would be as hard as it is. I'm ripping my hair out. We have considered them just over-staying. But they do not allow that anymore. They are hunting foreigners down for over-staying, and throwing the book at them.

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49 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

Yeah. Only problem is the kids. We want them to live with us too. Ha ha.

Nope. Dual citizenship is only for former Filipinos that were born before 2003. First kid was born in 2014. Disqualified. Also, both parents are foreigners. So second disqualification. :(

You need to slow down on what you think you know. My daughter was born in 2011, and she has dual citizenship. Almost all of the guys on the forums with children have obtained dual citizenship for their children. So, your assumption is totally incorrect. Also, your costing for tourist visas is totally inaccurate. There is no visa in the Philippines that costs $20k a month.

However, if your wife was not a Philippine citizen when your children were born, they may not be eligible for Philippine citizenship. You would have to get with the DFA to sort that one out. If they were born when she was still a Philippine citizen, then there is no problem with dual citizenship. That said, if they aren't eligible for Philippine citizenship, you would be miles ahead to just take a short trip out of the Philippines once a year, and keep yourself and your kids on the BB privilege. Consider short trips to other Asian countries, such as Hong Kong (Disneyland), Singapore (Universal Studios), or others (just for sightseeing or a short vacation). That way, your kids get a fun trip, and you never have to sweat visas again. Your wife, on the other hand as a former citizen, IS certainly eligible for dual citizenship, and she should definitely get that taken care of at the earliest opportunity.

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6 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

We have considered them just over-staying. But they do not allow that anymore.

They never did fixing this with RA9225 will cost less than overstaying in the long run.

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4 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

Yeah. Plane tickets are just way too expensive. Even when you have a lot of money, it's just not enough for flights.

Horseshit. Flights to neighboring Asian cities are very cheap. I don't have as much money as you, and even I can afford annual trips.

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Just now, SkyMan said:

No,

 

$50 I think.

Raise your right hand repeat efter me......sign here.

About half a million, actually. And can take years. You need to request loads of documents from abroad, mail them back abroad. Have them mailed back here. It is extremely difficult and expensive. Curious why there is so much misinformation on this site?

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Just now, Gus said:

Re : flights .
He watches the airline promos during the year ,and books when the right promo comes along .
It used to be Kota Kinabul mostly , but has been to Singapore, Hong Kong ,and Thailand ..flights dont need to be expensive. .
Re Australian Pension ..if youre a millionaire , you dont qualify ..
My point was .. It can be done without a millionaires budget !

 


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I've looked at every airlines that flies out of the Philippines to every destination in the world. Nothing remotely affordable. Not that the balikbayan can be done again anyways. That is a one time deal. The former Filipino and their dependents have to be out of the country for a year or more before returning and availing of the exemption again. :(

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1 minute ago, bob_lyn said:

That is a one time deal. The former Filipino and their dependents have to be out of the country for a year or more before returning and availing of the exemption again. :(

No.

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Just now, bob_lyn said:

I've looked at every airlines that flies out of the Philippines to every destination in the world. Nothing remotely affordable. Not that the balikbayan can be done again anyways. That is a one time deal. The former Filipino and their dependents have to be out of the country for a year or more before returning and availing of the exemption again. :(

LOL, ok, you have all the answers. Nobody is going to change your mind, so I am done trying to help with simple things like facts.

 

Enjoy your stay.

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3 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

About half a million, actually. And can take years. You need to request loads of documents from abroad, mail them back abroad. Have them mailed back here. It is extremely difficult and expensive. Curious why there is so much misinformation on this site?

The OP seemed to be a legitimate query.  If you were to dig a bit into the LinC archives, or just skip over the joke posts, you’d see that members have for the most part, a sincere desire to help.  

If there is misinformation on this site, it is because there are many varied ways a simple query can be answered by the official sources.  It is a common source of irritation among foreigners to have one question get different answers depending upon when it was asked and to whom. Shadow already informed you of this.

Jst a suggestion, but you might want to consider some of the advice you’ve been given and then take some action.

For myself, I think the balikbayan approach is the beat.  Especially if I were a millionaire. 

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Just now, Salty Dog said:

Bob you need to use the proper terminology when talking about money here.

The term bucks generally refers to dollars, not Peso. It a gigantic difference.

If you're talking about Peso, please say Peso or use the P in front of the amount P1000.

"Bucks" refers to PHP, actually. It's easier to says bucks than "Philippine Pesos". Most people says bucks. Should not be confusing.

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Just now, bob_lyn said:

"Bucks" refers to PHP, actually. It's easier to says bucks than "Philippine Pesos". Most people says bucks. Should not be confusing.

So you are a PHP millionaire not a US dollar millionaire...:rolleyes:

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26 minutes ago, bob_lyn said:

I've looked at every airlines that flies out of the Philippines to every destination in the world. Nothing remotely affordable. Not that the balikbayan can be done again anyways. That is a one time deal. The former Filipino and their dependents have to be out of the country for a year or more before returning and availing of the exemption again. :(

You should really reconsider staying in the Philippines. Living in a third-world country isn't for everybody, and it appears that it isn't for you. You have no idea what you are talking about. Go home to wherever you came from. The BB privilege can be availed over and over again, provided your wife accompanies you and your kids and re-enters the Philippines with you each time. There is no minimum time that you must stay out of the country, but most people make it at least an overnight trip.

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