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So a young girl is brutally murdered ...and we here at Linc have a thread with 22 posts ...of which 10 posts are now deleted from view ...Get a grip gentlemen , and instead niggling away at each other

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On 3/12/2019 at 11:07 AM, Jawny said:

THE National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) confirmed the arrest of the primary suspect in the murder of Christine Lee Silawan in Barangay Bangkal, Lapu-Lapu City.

Lawyer Tomas Enrile, NBI-Central Visayas director, said the suspect is a minor and former lover of Silawan.

The suspect admitted that jealousy was one of the reasons he murdered the 16-year-old Silawan.

A follow-up operation is underway after the suspect revealed the names of the other accomplices.

A witness earlier told police that there were three people involved in the crime. (via AYB of Superbalita Cebu)

 

 

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15 minutes ago, HTM said:

Lawyer Tomas Enrile, NBI-Central Visayas director, said the suspect is a minor

Do they have the sensible ability to try minors as adults here?  I think if you kill someone, especially premed, you have declared yourself an adult.

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29 minutes ago, SkyMan said:

Do they have the sensible ability to try minors as adults here?  I think if you kill someone, especially premed, you have declared yourself an adult. 

Yes, but not the same way as in most of US

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I don't really remember, but if he more then 15 he can be almost treated as an adults here, as long its murder, rape or drug. I don't remember the RA number.

 

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DeedleNuts

After the Ella Joy fiasco my faith in PH LEOs getting the right person in a high profile case is shall we say, muted. 

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SkyMan
40 minutes ago, GwapoGuy said:

Where is the suspects handcuffs?

There are 3....

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Maybe not allowed for minors?

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Davaoeno
43 minutes ago, GwapoGuy said:

Where is the suspects handcuffs?

He's not going to run- he's in the safest place possible

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On 3/18/2019 at 10:08 PM, HTM said:

if he more then 15 he can be almost treated as an adults here, as long its murder, rape or drug.

He 17, "almost" is not good enough.

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The prosecutors must allege that the arrested suspect, at 17 still a child in the eyes of the law, acted with discernment. Otherwise, “Cliff” may face psychologists and social workers, not the judge.

Under the law (Republic Act 9344 or Juvenile Justice & Welfare Act of 2006) as “a child in conflict with the law,” the 17-year-old former boyfriend of Christine is given special protection. Less than what a child aged 15 years or below is granted but still a lot. With the general exemption from criminal responsibility, the child-suspect, also enjoys, among others:

* Right to privacy at all stages of the proceeding, the reason he is allowed to cover his face and head when he appears in public;

* Right to bail “in appropriate cases,” and right not to be imprisoned or sentenced to capital punishment or life imprisonment without possibility of parole. R. A. 10630 in 2013 amended the law to allow the jailing of children charged with serious crimes, including those in the 12-or-below bracket. The amendment, however, requires their detention in a “Bahay ng Pag-asa” run by DSWD or the local government.

* Exemption from liability for perjury or concealment.

“Diversion”

The law would have a child above 15 below 18, who acted without discernment, go through “diversion,” instead of the usual court process of indictment and trial. By diversion, “Cliff” will be tested to find out the right program or activity for him. The program is alternative to trying the child in court and locking him up for a number of years if he’s found guilty.

That seems the right procedure, on theory. In actual practice, though it is hardly done. A diversion program requires skilled people and funds. There are not even enough “Bahay ng Pag-asa” or places where to keep the young suspects or convicts. In actuality, many are detained in the same jails where adult criminals are kept.

“Acting with “discernment”

Prosecutors are tasked by the law to determine if “Cliff” acted with discernment. Discernment means “capacity of the child at the time the crime is committed to understand the difference between right and wrong and consequences of the wrongful act.”

Did Cliff know killing Christine was wrong? Mutilating, disfiguring, and stabbing her multiple times, was he aware that it was wrong? In sum: determine his frame of mind. With the help of DSWD professionals, the prosecutor decides on presence or absence of discernment when the crime was done. - https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1797825/Cebu/Opinion/Seares-Did-teenage-boy-in-Christine-Silawan-murder-know-it-was-wrong-to-kill

 

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On 3/19/2019 at 1:53 PM, SkyMan said:

There are 3....

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Maybe not allowed for minors?

even the hardest of dangerous criminals wouldn't need hand cuffs except to follow dictated protocol.   those NBI guys are pros. 

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You had ONE thing to do...

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 The Public Attorney's Office (PAO) on Thursday said it sees "conflict" between the evidence produced by the Philippine National Police (PNP) and that by the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) in connection with the murder of Cebu teen Christine Silawan.  Erwin Erfe, the chief of the PAO's forensic team, said the PNP has two eyewitnesses, while the NBI complaint rests on circumstantial evidence, such as an underage suspect's digital footprint and CCTV footage.  The PAO has stepped in as lawyer for the parents of 16-year-old Christine Silawan, who was found dead in a vacant lot in Lapu-Lapu City with multiple stab wounds and a skinned face last week.  The NBI has arrested Silawan's 17-year-old ex-boyfriend and filed a murder complaint against the minor. Erfe said the PAO was surprised by the filing and saw an "insufficiency" in the NBI complaint, though they appreciated its digital footprint evidence.  On the other hand, he said the PNP investigation is "leading in the right track."  Describing another inconsistency, Erfe said an eyewitness recounted that Silawan had been raped, while a medico-legal officer found otherwise. - https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/688741/pao-sees-lsquo-conflict-rsquo-between-pnp-nbi-evidence-in-cebu-teen-slay-case/story/

 

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JonnyBravo

There appears to be many inconsistencies with this case.


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