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China’s latest island grab: Fishing ‘militia’ makes move on sandbars around Philippines’ Thitu Island

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It continues .....

https://www.news.com.au/finance/chinas-latest-island-grab-fishing-militia-makes-move-on-sandbars-around-philippines-thitu-island/news-story/7805269e5fe270f59e7657328f0c6382

China’s latest island grab: Fishing ‘militia’ makes move on sandbars around Philippines’ Thitu Island

Beijing has snatched another patch of the South China Sea, with its ‘militia’ seizing control of a string of sandbars and denying fishermen access.

News Corp Australia NetworkMARCH 5, 201912:06PM

There’s a new name in the South China Sea’s growing list of flashpoints: Thitu Island. While nowhere near the scale of Fiery Cross or Mischief Reefs, this island and bundle of low-lying sandbars off the Philippines coast is just as significant.

It’s a prosperous fishing spot. And it’s another potential territorial marker in the hotly contested international waterway.

Now, China has physically staked its claim over the sandbars that surround it.

Filipino fishermen say they are being driven away from their traditional fishing grounds, by Chinese boats.

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LINE IN THE SAND

The waters between Thitu Island and Subi Reef, both of which are near the northwestern Philippines, have long been claimed as part of its territorial waters.

But, since 2015, China simply took over Subi Reef and used land-reclamation engineering to turn it into an enormous naval and air force fortress.

Beijing has recently staked a claim to almost the entire South China Sea, even though it extends far to the south and east of the mainland. It includes waters claimed by the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam.

Now the Chinese Communist Party’s fishing ‘militia’ is pushing out its boundaries.

Mayor Roberto del Mundo of Kalayaan, a Philippines Palawan town which administers Thitu Island, has told Inquirer.net that his fishermen are being elbowed out.

Thitu Island itself is home to a Philippines slipway, jetty, runway and anchorage. But fishermen attempting to operate from there are being turned back as soon as they approach the nearest sandbar just 3km off the island’s coast.

 

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and the rest of the article - no idea what happened to my pastes :scratch_head:

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“It means they (the Chinese) think they own it because they refuse to leave. If they’re just really fishing, they can leave for Subi Reef and then come back, but they no longer leave,” Del Mundo said.

“The presence of Chinese boats is now affecting our fishing activities. It wasn’t that way before. When our fishermen is about to get near Sandbar 3, that is really our fishing ground, a Chinese vessel would immediately come up to us to ward us off so we can’t come closer.”

And he’s worried about the future of Thitu Island itself.

“On January 22 at 7 in the evening, I personally witnessed a helicopter that flew over the island. It did not flash a spotlight (searchlight) … It happened fast; it made a few rounds and then it left,” Del Mundo told the Inquirer.

“We were nervous because it might erupt into something. But we just stared at it until it left. It went towards (the Chinese fortress of) Subi Reef. It headed towards Subi because on the other side there’s nothing there.”

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GAME OF ISLANDS

In 2017, China protested that the Philippines had breached an agreement not to occupy the sandbars with the construction of a ramshackle fisherman’s shelter.

The Philippine’s controversial President, Rodrigo Duterte, ordered his military to tear it down as part of his ongoing policy of appeasement towards Beijing.

This is despite the Philippines winning an appeal to the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, which had been instigated by President Duterte’s predecessor.

It found Beijing had no traditional or historical right to the South China Sea’s scattering of small islands and reefs. As such, the Philippines had territorial rights over the resources of the West Philippine Sea under the UN’s exclusive economic zone laws.

President Duterte, however, has not acted to assert the Philippines rights as defined by the ruling. He has openly stated he has no desire to upset his mighty neighbour by challenging its seizure of his country’s territory.

But now China’s fishing fleet and military-controlled coast guard have begun swarming around Thitu Island, many Filipinos are becoming restless.

Beijing has just declared a major increase in its defence budget.

It’s stated purpose: “for safeguarding the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of the country. It is not a threat to other countries,” congress spokesman Zhang Yesui said at this week’s Two Houses assembly of Chinese Communist Party members.

The problem is, other nations also consider parts of the South China Sea as key parts of their own sovereignty, security and territorial integrity.

China’s armed forces have undergone a thorough expansion and modernisation program in recent years, raising concerns among its neighbours.

China also claims ownership of East China Sea islands controlled by traditional rival Japan and threatens to attack self-governing Taiwan to take control of what it regardsas a breakaway Chinese territory.

President Xi Jinping has cast himself as an ardent nationalist and foreign policy hawk, protecting himself from accusations of being too soft toward the West.

 

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RR3

Subi reef? The name is Zhubi Reef (Chinese: 渚碧礁; pinyin: Zhǔbì Jiāo. In Tagalog Zamora.

Part of 'Spratly islands'? Chinese were there thousands of years before this spratly... Correct name is Nánshā Qúndǎo (南沙群岛)

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They need to call it the west Philippine sea. And stop the other name.

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or open a branch and plant the flag - before Chowking does

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1 hour ago, RR3 said:

Subi reef? The name is Zhubi Reef (Chinese: 渚碧礁; pinyin: Zhǔbì Jiāo. In Tagalog Zamora.

Part of 'Spratly islands'? Chinese were there thousands of years before this spratly... Correct name is Nánshā Qúndǎo (南沙群岛)

How far back should we go to determine ownership?

Ownership is determined by the power of your military or that of your allies.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China#Paleolithic_(3.3_Ma_~_12_ka)

What is now China was inhabited by Homo Erectus more than a million years ago.[8]

 

I guess the Africans own China, they've been in China for over a  million years?

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https://www.ancient.eu/Homo_Erectus/

These prehistoric hunter-gatherers were highly successful in adapting to vastly different habitats across the Old World, as fossils connected with this species have been found ranging from Africa all the way to Southeast Asia

 

 

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RR3
1 hour ago, SkyMan said:

They need to call it the west Philippine sea. And stop the other name.

It was called Nan Hai or South China Sea long before any Philippe from Spain

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The world court says otherwise. 

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18 minutes ago, RR3 said:

It was called Nan Hai or South China Sea long before any Philippe from Spain

And if you get a decent rain with flooded streets in Manila the Chinese will probably call that a tributary of the Yangtze ......

The world will want to wake up a whole heap more to see what the chinese objective on a broader scale really is , the Philippines have made a grave error IMO in letting them just take what they want ..the old saying "give an inch and take a mile". I believe the current regime's hate of westerners can be attributed to this just being let to happen....

The Chinese tentacles are spreading far and wide and country's that initially welcome their money through infrastructure development etc... are finding out that it is like doing a deal with the devil.....

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hmmmmmmm

South China Sea tensions at new high after Vietnamese boat rammed and sunk

https://www.news.com.au/world/south-china-sea-tensions-at-new-high-after-vietnamese-boat-rammed-and-sunk/news-story/10188f3d7c1d7336bcaffafd742defab

China has dramatically escalated tensions in one of the most hotly disputed places on the planet, reportedly sinking a vessel.

News Corp Australia Network MARCH 8, 2019 12:25PM

Hanoi Vietnam’s government claims that a Chinese vessel rammed and sank a Vietnamese fishing boat in disputed waters in the South China Sea.

The fishing boat was around 370 kilometres off Da Nang near Discovery Reef in the Paracel island chain on Wednesday when it was rammed by a Chinese vessel, the National Committee for Incident, Natural Disaster Response and Search and Rescue said in a statement.

The five Vietnamese men on board the fishing boat clung on to the sinking bow until they were rescued, the statement said.

Vietnam’s government and state media have previously accused Chinese vessels of attacking Vietnamese fishing boats.

In April and May, more than 10 Vietnamese fishing boats were allegedly hit and robbed while fishing in the South China Sea, according to Vietnam’s Tuoi Tre newspaper.

China claims almost all of the South China Sea, including waters internationally recognised as Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone where Vietnam has sole fishing rights.

Greg Poling, a fellow with the Southeast Asia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, slammed China over the incident.

“A Chinese ship reportedly rams and sinks a Vietnamese fishing boat in the Paracels (again),” he said on Twitter.

“China’s neighbors have become so numb to the constant exercise of low-intensity violence and intimidation that it will warrant barely a mention in regional press.”

The incident came as Vietnam jailed 15 people for “causing public disorder” during anti-China protests.

Scores have been jailed in the wake of rare nationwide demonstrations in June 2018 that quickly turned violent in some areas as police struggled to quell the unrest.

On Thursday, 15 people were sentenced to between two and 3.5 years in jail by a court in southern Binh Thuan province, where police stations were ransacked and security vehicles destroyed.

State-run Vietnam News Agency said “the 15 defendants were shouting, instigating the crowd” and blocked traffic on a major highway for 15 hours, citing the official indictment.

“The jury board concluded that the defendants’ behaviour undermined security, order and social safety... so they need to be seriously punished,” VNA reported.

A court official confirmed the sentences and said several others are currently under investigation on similar charges, he told AFP, refusing to be named.

Last year’s unrest was sparked by a proposal by the government to establish several economic zones with 99-year leases in the country that protesters said were designed to cater to Chinese investors.

The draft bill made no mention of China - and the government backed off the lengthy lease terms - but it was not enough to prevent the demonstrations in several cities, including Hanoi and the southern commercial hub of Ho Chi Minh City.

The bill has been shelved for now and officials have not said whether it may be revived.

The investment zones were aimed at attracting foreign cash to the fast-growing, export-oriented economy.

The one-party state has clocked glittering growth in the past decade, while maintaining a firm grip on power.

 

 

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On 3/5/2019 at 12:18 PM, RR3 said:

It was called Nan Hai or South China Sea long before any Philippe from Spain

Nan Hai doesn't mean Southern China Sea in Chinese - it just means Southern (Nan) Sea (Hai). There are Eastern Sea, Northern Sea etc. The concept of foreign nations as equals simply didn't exist and no point labeling their seas or territories as such.

According to Chinese theory the emperor owns the everything under the sky, so naturally the PRC should inherit the entire earth.

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As a matter of fact, Vietnam was Chinese Qin territory 2000 years ago, the eastern coastal line in Russia was Ming territory, and Mongolia was an undisputed part of Qing empire. Perhaps they should take all those back. :D 

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40 minutes ago, rep1 said:

Perhaps they should take all those back. :D 

They will have to start with Taiwan, and I expect there will be some nasty surprises in store if they try.

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Yes the surprise will be how fast Taiwan falls and it will be interesting to see if USA runs or fights with a Nuclear Power https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_Taiwan_vs_China

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It would be very costly in terms of lives lost for China to attempt to invade Taiwan. The Chinese fleet would not make it across the 100 miles of water. Taiwan has been preparing for seventy years.  If China attempted a bombing campaign they might as well kiss Bejing goodbye. Taiwan would have nothing to lose by retaliating. 

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On 3/8/2019 at 11:47 PM, Headshot said:

They will have to start with Taiwan, and I expect there will be some nasty surprises in store if they try.

Probably an unconditional surrender the moment they declare war!

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