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Jester

I'm not surprised, after reading about 1/2 way through the OP my BS alarm went off and I no longer followed the thread. 

 

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oztony
2 hours ago, Headshot said:

Now, there are obviously a lot of middle-age women in our home countries that would disagree, but then they would likely see every one of LinC Forums members as perverts.

I would hope not Bill , you know there are a lot of varying age differences between the members of the forum and their wives .....10, 15 , 20 , 30 , 35 years ...but none of us are interested in socialising with a guy in his 50's talking about dating 18 year olds ...from facebook (and who knows how many ..over his 5 visits ) and  how they look 14 years old ...

I understand that you do not like my method of moderating , we all like new material and a bit of entertainment , but it has to be regulated on the open forums , we have to make decisions about suitable content in topics ...and the above just doesn't cut it ,  Is that the sort of stuff you want to see ???

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Headshot
36 minutes ago, oztony said:

I would hope not Bill , you know there are a lot of varying age differences between the members of the forum and their wives .....10, 15 , 20 , 30 , 35 years ...but none of us are interested in socialising with a guy in his 50's talking about dating 18 year olds ...from facebook (and who knows how many ..over his 5 visits ) and  how they look 14 years old ...

I understand that you do not like my method of moderating , we all like new material and a bit of entertainment , but it has to be regulated on the open forums , we have to make decisions about suitable content in topics ...and the above just doesn't cut it ,  Is that the sort of stuff you want to see ???

I make no judgement of any member based on the age gap between him and his wife. It really doesn't matter as long as both of them are happy with the arrangement. And that age gap existed when they were dating as well, so I don't judge members by who they date either.

AIC said that the girl he described in this topic looks like the 22-year-old that she is, so I don't see where you are coming from. It was other members who tried to say that she probably looked 14. AIC was more worried about her petite size that her facial appearance.

Tony, I generally have no problem with your moderating style. I know that you hated my moderating style, but that doesn't bother me. However, in this case, I think your spidey senses are flawed. Whippy is a known user of women (because he bragged about his exploits many times), and yet he was welcomed back and still belongs to LinC, but you somehow determined from just a few posts that AIC is worse? Don't you see the fallacy in that?

I hope that the owner and admins will review this decision and reverse it. If they don't, then all of the talk about making the forums more inclusive was just so many words, and there is no difference between this owner and the last.

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oztony
3 minutes ago, Headshot said:

AIC said that the girl he described in this topic looks like the 22-year-old that she is, so I don't see where you are coming from. It was other members who tried to say that she probably looked 14. AIC was more worried about her petite size that her facial appearance.

This whole version of what you say here is your own unresearched version and is complete misinformation to to people reading this thread .....read back through the posts and find your own mistakes with your misinterpretation ...because I just cannot be bothered doing it for you....Bill you are wrong and should really attempt better to get it right when engaging with this type of stuff ....

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savarity
I make no judgement of any member based on the age gap between him and his wife. It really doesn't matter as long as both of them are happy with the arrangement. And that age gap existed when they were dating as well, so I don't judge members by who they date either. AIC said that the girl he described in this topic looks like the 22-year-old that she is, so I don't see where you are coming from. It was other members who tried to say that she probably looked 14. AIC was more worried about her petite size that her facial appearance.

Tony, I generally have no problem with your moderating style. I know that you hated my moderating style, but that doesn't bother me. However, in this case, I think your spidey senses are flawed. Whippy is a known user of women (because he bragged about his exploits many times), and yet he was welcomed back and still belongs to LinC, but you somehow determined from just a few posts that AIC is worse? Don't you see the fallacy in that?

I hope that the owner and admins will review this decision and reverse it. If they don't, then all of the talk about making the forums more inclusive was just so many words, and there is no difference between this owner and the last.

 

Seems OP said another girl looked 14 back three years ago in 2015, though he wasn't banned for that post at the time. What I'm not clear on is, what exactly is the ban-worthy offense in a person's private life, to the board's unwritten code of morality, and what exactly made OP a "degenerate?" Was it: 

 

-dating an 18 or 21 year old?

 

-possibly dating more than 2 people?

 

-his date's appearance?

 

 

 

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RogerDuMond
3 minutes ago, savarity said:

Seems OP said another girl looked 14 back in 2015, though he wasn't banned for that post at the time. What I'm not clear on is what exactly is the ban-worthy offense in a person's private life to the board's unwritten code of morality and what exactly determines a "degenerate," is it:

-dating an 18 or 21 year old?

-possibly dating more than 2 people?

-your date's appearance?

It is possible to find out.

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Kahuna
35 minutes ago, Headshot said:

Whippy is a known user of women (because he bragged about his exploits many times), and yet he was welcomed back and still belongs to LinC,

He'd been banned so many times he held the record for new identities[and still may].  I think you were very vocal about how it looked when he would make his conquest posts and saw that in a negative way and agreed he had to go back then.

I'm not saying AIC was another Whippy but there was a "smell" to this thread that got worse as it went on. Tony nipped it at the source which was the right thing to do and arguing openly now about how that looks for the forum with him is not right.You wouldn't stand for it back in the day. Tony's doing his job here..Let it be. 

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Headshot
25 minutes ago, oztony said:

This whole version of what you say here is your own unresearched version and is complete misinformation to to people reading this thread .....read back through the posts and find your own mistakes with your misinterpretation ...because I just cannot be bothered doing it for you....Bill you are wrong and should really attempt better to get it right when engaging with this type of stuff ....

Well, let me refresh your memory. You said...

12 hours ago, oztony said:

The impression that I am getting here is that the girl looks waaaaay younger than 16 .......:mellow:

But he said...

11 hours ago, AmericanInCebu said:

 she looked 22 except that her physique was the smallest I ever saw and I remember thinking, having the ID will head off problems. 

The woman he dated in 2015 was 18 years old, and this woman was 22 years old. Both women were of legal age. I see no problem with either situation. There is no offense worthy of a ban here. We have no evidence that AIC was abusing anybody, and there is no evidence that he was exploiting anybody. So, what is the offense for which you are banning him?

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Davaoeno
20 minutes ago, savarity said:

what exactly made OP a "degenerate?"

possibly his potty training went awry !

5 minutes ago, Headshot said:

There is no offense worthy of a ban here.

in your mind . However you are not the one making the decision.  

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Headshot
5 minutes ago, Kahuna said:

He'd been banned so many times he held the record for new identities[and still may].  I think you were very vocal about how it looked when he would make his conquest posts and saw that in a negative way and agreed he had to go back then.

Until the change in ownership, the only way that Whippy got back into the forums was by creating a new username. Even then, he seldom lasted long before he was discovered and banned again.

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Kahuna
1 minute ago, Headshot said:

Until the change in ownership, the only way that Whippy got back into the forums was by creating a new username. Even then, he seldom lasted long before he was discovered and banned again.

Paul used to let him ride til he slipped back into his old self and made a conquest post.. He knew who he was and made a game of finding his new ID's when he'd ban him.  I was there too Bill..

There wasn't much discussion as to why he was banned since it was self evident. But we are not here about Whippy.  

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Headshot
3 minutes ago, Davaoeno said:

you are not the one making the decision.  

True, but then I never said that I was. I only ask that this ban be reviewed by the owner and admins. If their decision is to uphold the ban, then that will say as much about the forums as it does about AIC. It will be telling of what the future holds.

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Kahuna
4 minutes ago, Headshot said:

It will be telling of what the future holds

 How's that?  

You're saying this topic or thread is pivotal in how the forum grows or not grows? 

 They have a money flow problem that could be addressed.  

Other than that let the Mods do what they think is best and popular opinion will handle the rest as to if this forum keeps going or not.  

Arguing with the Mods isn't moving it forward I don't think..  

Let it be..

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Headshot
14 minutes ago, Kahuna said:

 How's that?  

You're saying this topic or thread is pivotal in how the forum grows or not grows? 

 They have a money flow problem that could be addressed.  

Other than that let the Mods do what they think is best and popular opinion will handle the rest as to if this forum keeps going or not.  

Arguing with the Mods isn't moving it forward I don't think..  

Let it be..

You said that; not me. Please don't put words into my mouth. Tony decided to bring this banning out into the open forums. What did he expect would come from that? I see the banning as wrong, and I said so. I have no control over the future of LinC Forums. Only the owner and adins have that control.

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oztony
35 minutes ago, Headshot said:

Well, let me refresh your memory. You said...

But he said...

The woman he dated in 2015 was 18 years old, and this woman was 22 years old. Both women were of legal age. I see no problem with either situation. There is no offense worthy of a ban here. We have no evidence that AIC was abusing anybody, and there is no evidence that he was exploiting anybody. So, what is the offense for which you are banning him?

You know , someone else even tried to help you , but you still got it wrong ...

Ever since you were assholed from staff for poor decision making you have had a chip on your shoulder and now you sidle yourself to some one we deem to be unscrupulous and demand a review ....there is a heap more room left where I put this fella Bill ...keep going champ ....

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Kahuna
1 minute ago, Headshot said:

You said that; not me. Please don't put words into my mouth. Tony decided to bring this banning out into the open forums. What did he expect would come from that?

Back in your day you used to be very vocal on why you would move,shut down threads and if people didn't like it ,,tough..

I'm just trying to steer you out of a bad skid here ///  

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oztony
1 minute ago, Headshot said:

You said that; not me. Please don't put words into my mouth. Tony decided to bring this banning out into the open forums. What did he expect would come from that?

You to create enough rope for yourself comes to mind and you are right on track , youre constant criticism of staff is becoming stale to the point that I can nearly see the date on the container ...

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oztony
6 minutes ago, Headshot said:

Tony decided to bring this banning out into the open forums. What did he expect would come from that?

People to have a decent moral sense and an understanding of what we dont want here and guess what Bill ...you failed this assignment ...you appear to prefer to standby disreputable types even if it is to just have a dig at staff ....pretty sad. 

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RogerDuMond
39 minutes ago, Headshot said:

I only ask that this ban be reviewed by the owner and admins.

In case you don't remember, it is against the rules for members to attempt to moderate threads. If you have a problem with the way something is being done, handle it by PM or the report button.

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RogerDuMond

This topic is unsalvageable and therefore closed.

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