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Saw this on a Samsung 4K QLED (whatever that means) TV. Of course you have to be able to see it in 4K to really feel like it's real...

 

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SkyMan

Is that video actually 4k or down sampled? Does yt host 4k? Just curious. Our TV is fine for now but it would be nice sometimes to have one with a USB port so if I do upgrade I may look at 4k.

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2 hours ago, SkyMan said:

Is that video actually 4k or down sampled? Does yt host 4k? Just curious. Our TV is fine for now but it would be nice sometimes to have one with a USB port so if I do upgrade I may look at 4k.

YouTube can serve up 4K (a.k.a. Ultra HD or UHD) in a format called VP9, a royalty-free codec...

YouTube Ultra HD videos don't use H.265 compression. If you search 4K content within YouTube right now, you'll be able to select 4K as a quality option on these videos. But, as with HEVC/H.265, VP9 needs compatible hardware (ie. a 4K screen) to watch it on.

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YouTube can serve up 4K (a.k.a. Ultra HD or UHD) in a format called VP9, a royalty-free codec...
YouTube Ultra HD videos don't use H.265 compression. If you search 4K content within YouTube right now, you'll be able to select 4K as a quality option on these videos. But, as with HEVC/H.265, VP9 needs compatible hardware (ie. a 4K screen) to watch it on.
I think i mentioned this before.
We purchased a Sony 42 inch 4k Smart tv about 6 months ago.
It was mainly purchased to supplement the local TV stations (in PH) without the need to pay for top of the range CIGNAL packages. Plus If needed i can get the internet and a cricket stream from Australia.

Now i read the YouTube article that stated that you could not see in 4k.

Well I'm not in a position to argue with that statement, I'm not an eye specialist.... However all i know is that if i select a 4k video from YouTube the clarity is visually amazing, even though I'm told (according to YouTube) one cant see in 4k?.

As i like anything travel there is a YouTube video of a vehicle with dash cam just driving through New York in 4K,(one of many 4K VIDEOS), No Audio apart from background noise. The clarity is just outstanding. You can read every street sign/ number plate, Now,,,, I'm not saying you cannot do that in 1080 but this is so clear..
I know and understand that those people that haven't got 4k will be hard pressed to appreciate this, however if one cannot see in 4k (according to YouTube) I'm confused.









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Goetz1965

Im happy to watch 1080p content on my 65" 4K TV - even that 1080p is crispy to watch.

So I dont really need native 4K now - also because 4K content usually is 4-5x more data than a good quality 1080p content. A video in 1080p with 1GB size easily ends up having 5-6GB in 4K. 
Thus before using 4K regularly I would need to invest in bigger harddrives
 

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1 hour ago, cookie47 said:

I think i mentioned this before.
We purchased a Sony 42 inch 4k Smart tv about 6 months ago.
It was mainly purchased to supplement the local TV stations (in PH) without the need to pay for top of the range CIGNAL packages. Plus If needed i can get the internet and a cricket stream from Australia. emoji16.png

Now i read the YouTube article that stated that you could not see in 4k.

Well I'm not in a position to argue with that statement, I'm not an eye specialist.... However all i know is that if i select a 4k video from YouTube the clarity is visually amazing, even though I'm told (according to YouTube) one cant see in 4k?.

As i like anything travel there is a YouTube video of a vehicle with dash cam just driving through New York in 4K,(one of many 4K VIDEOS), No Audio apart from background noise. The clarity is just outstanding. You can read every street sign/ number plate, Now,,,, I'm not saying you cannot do that in 1080 but this is so clear..
I know and understand that those people that haven't got 4k will be hard pressed to appreciate this, however if one cannot see in 4k (according to YouTube) I'm confused.

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The way I've heard it explained is that maybe you can't see 4k, but you can see something between it and 1080. That would explain why it can still look a lot clearer to someone.

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Woolf

I am an operator in our local movie theater

our projector is  1920 x 1080, I am impressed how clear it is

much better than when we used 35 mm film

viewing  from normal distance you do not notice the pixels

the display area is a bit more than 42"      ;-) 

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Posted (edited)

WHy you cant tell a difference between 1080p and 4K on a 42" screen is shown in this graph:
main-qimg-c10ea19414842d29a8024993fde572dc-c.jpeg.pdf

Giving a usual viewing distance to the TV of 10 feet you would start noticing differences at screen sizes of 80" or higher.

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cookie47
WHy you cant tell a difference between 1080p and 4K on a 42" screen is shown in this graph:
main-qimg-c10ea19414842d29a8024993fde572dc-c.jpeg.pdf

Giving a usual viewing distance to the TV of 10 feet you would start noticing differences at screen sizes of 80" or higher.
Goetz,
I'm not sure if we are on the same page. (sorry)

My point is i CAN tell the difference between 1080p and 4K on MY 40 inch 4k TV.
IMHO.
However YouTube says you cannot see in 4K "apparently"..
But apparently there is a mid ground between the two that the human eye can see.. that does look visually better. (as per Saltydog)

I'm at a loss to understand the discrepancy between the YouTube article..... And of the TV manufacturers claiming that there Tvs are 4K.. (which they probably are)..

HOWEVER , if a consumer had seen the YouTube video prior to purchase claiming that you cannot see in 4K, one "Could" think "is" the purchase worthwhile. Well personally yes. Imho...

Of course all of this assumes the guy on YouTube know what he's talking about...?











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Davaoeno

I'm getting a headache !! 

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cookie47
I'm getting a headache !! 
Sorry

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SkyMan
3 hours ago, Davaoeno said:

I'm getting a headache !! 

You're sitting too close to the TV.

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