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Get Ready For A Life Without Death In Around 30 Years!

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Hope I can last that long!

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It's bad news for people who are already bored to death on planet earth, for the death of death is reportedly near.

Dying will be "optional" within just 27 years and the ageing process will be "reversible", according to two genetic engineers during the presentation of their new book, The Death of Death, in Barcelona.

According to the website thinkspain, José Luis Cordeiro, born in Venezuela to Spanish parents, and Cambridge (UK) mathematician David Wood, founders of the operating system Symbian, say immortality is a real and scientific possibility that could come much earlier than originally thought.

Humans will only die in accidents, never of natural causes or illness, by around the year 2045, say Cordeiro and Wood, who say it is "crucial" that old age starts to be classified as an "illness" so that publicly-funded research into its "cure" can extend.

Nanotechnology is key, among other new genetic manipulation techniques, the engineers said during their presentation at Barcelona's Equestrian Circle.

The report said the process will involve turning "bad" genes into healthy ones, eliminating dead cells from the body, repairing damaged cells, treatments with stem cells and "printing" vital organs in 3D.

Cordeiro, who is based at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the US, says he has "chosen not to die" and that in 30 years' time, he will be "younger than he is today".

Ageing is the result of DNA "tails", known as "telomeres", in chromosomes - of which every cell except red blood and sex cells has 23 pairs - becoming shorter, and reversing ageing involves lengthening the telomeres.

Telomeres become damaged and shortened with the passage of time, a process that speeds up in the event of toxins entering the body - smoking, alcohol and air pollution are among elements that reduce the length of telomeres, thus accelerating ageing, the thinkspain report said.

Cordeiro and Wood believe that within 10 years, illnesses such as cancer will be curable, and that major international corporations such as Google will be "entering the field of medicine" because they are "beginning to realise that curing ageing is possible".

Microsoft has reportedly already announced the setting up of a cryopreservation centre in which a scientist is researching the possibility of cancer being completely curable within a decade.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/world/get-ready-for-a-life-without-death-in-around-30-years/ar-AAAurHf?ocid=spartandhp

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rfm010

"Reversing aging involves lengthening the telomeres."  Interesting that in most cancer cells the shortening process has been reversed.  If you like to gamble there is a company you can invest in that is trying to address this problem.  The company is called geron (GERN) and by the end of september johnson & johnson is to announce whether or not they will continue their colaboration with gern.  Yes would indicate that trial results have been good and that there is something to this telomere business.  And since gern holds bunches of patents for the stuff the controls telomeres, their price should do quite well.  A rejection by j&j would likely mean weak results and a nasty drop in stock price. 

There are compelling arguments for the favorable outcome.  I have been playing the bounces in price for the last couple of years and done rather well with small stakes.  My most recent buyback is down about 5%, i am holding it through the decision announcement.  Price could double or fall 90%.  I dont have the confidence in it to take a large stake.  The good science discussions are behind a paywall (very cool) but the following article and especially the comments should give one an idea of the excitement behind this event.  Bunch of crazy pepole if you ask me,

but, 

if those crazy people strike it rich this week one might be able to give more credence to the gist of the op's article as it is an early indication of the benefits of controlling telomere length.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4207521-geron-last-chapter

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TequilaSunset

Well that would be fun right? Billions and billions more people on the planet? The world would be like India all over.

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Dafey
1 hour ago, TequilaSunset said:

Well that would be fun right? Billions and billions more people on the planet? The world would be like India all over.

I'm sure it will only be the Ultra-Rich

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Jim_in_Jax

Personally, I don't want to live forever.  I would like to have a decent quality of life up to the end but not keen on anything over say 90 years.  Unless we discover an extra planet or two to expand to, this isn't a good idea.  There are so many things wrong with this.  First off, at least in the beginning, this will be something only the super rich will probably be able to afford.  At some point I'm pretty sure governments would get involved and start deciding who qualifies to live "forever".  They'd rationalize, even if the technology becomes affordable, we can't have people who don't contribute to society in ways that makes it better for all to continue living indefinitely.

I don't like it.

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lamoe
53 minutes ago, Jim_in_Jax said:

Personally, I don't want to live forever.  I would like to have a decent quality of life up to the end but not keen on anything over say 90 years.  Unless we discover an extra planet or two to expand to, this isn't a good idea.  There are so many things wrong with this.  First off, at least in the beginning, this will be something only the super rich will probably be able to afford.  At some point I'm pretty sure governments would get involved and start deciding who qualifies to live "forever".  They'd rationalize, even if the technology becomes affordable, we can't have people who don't contribute to society in ways that makes it better for all to continue living indefinitely.

I don't like it.

"They'd rationalize, even if the technology becomes affordable, we can't have people who don't contribute to society in ways that makes it better for all to continue living indefinitely."

Very true  BUT with governments involved what benefits all may be "who votes for whom" - like now.

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Goetz1965

Just look around you - idiots everywhere - pollution everywhere - do you REALLY want to live longer ???

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Dafey

Depends....are you gonna be here?

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GBT62

and yet Symbian died ...... :huh_01:

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rfm010

Not that anybody need give a toot about this but since i did bring up the work of geron with telomere stuff i thought i should update on the results.  J&J did in fact end their collaboration and it seems the attempts to manipulate telomere length to, in this case, control cancer, have come to naught.  As has the net worth of those who were over invested in geron, the share price having fallen some 70%.  

So, looks like we are still all going to die.  

Although, apparently, not from complications from high triglycerides.  Google AMRN.  Likely all of us know people who will benefit from this.

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Dafey
3 hours ago, rfm010 said:

So, looks like we are still all going to die.

Finally...something we can all agree on!

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Contango
On 9/24/2018 at 9:07 AM, Dafey said:

I'm sure it will only be the Ultra-Rich

Yep it will be just for the super rich, perhaps the masses will rise up? but probably not.

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