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Questions and answers about divorce between a Filipino National and a foreign spouse:

 

I am Filipino National, married to an American citizen. My spouse has obtained a divorce in the USA. May I remarry in the Philippines?

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 01:

 

Marriage is a special contract of permanent union between a man and a woman entered into in accordance with law for the establishment of conjugal and family life. It is the foundation of the family and an inviolable social institution whose nature, consequences, and incidents are governed by law and not subject to stipulation, except that marriage settlements may fix the property relations during the marriage within the limits provided by this Code. (52a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 02:

 

No marriage shall be valid, unless these essential requisites are present:

(1) Legal capacity of the contracting parties who must be a male and a female; and (2) Consent freely given in the presence of the solemnizing officer. (53a)


 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 03:

The formal requisites of marriage are:

(1) Authority of the solemnizing officer; (2) A valid marriage license except in the cases provided for in Chapter 2 of this Title; and
 
(3) A marriage ceremony which takes place with the appearance of the contracting parties before the solemnizing officer and their personal declaration that they take each other as husband and wife in the presence of not less than two witnesses of legal age. (53a, 55a)


 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 04:

The absence of any of the essential or formal requisites shall render the marriage void ab initio, except as stated in Article 35 (2). A defect in any of the essential requisites shall not affect the validity of the marriage but the party or parties responsible for the irregularity shall be civilly, criminally and administratively liable. (n)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 05:

 

Any male or female of the age of eighteen years or upwards not under any of the impediments mentioned in Articles 37 and 38, may contract marriage. (54a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 06:

 

No prescribed form or religious rite for the solemnization of the marriage is required. It shall be necessary, however, for the contracting parties to appear personally before the solemnizing officer and declare in the presence of not less than two witnesses of legal age that they take each other as husband and wife. This declaration shall be contained in the marriage certificate which shall be signed by the contracting parties and their witnesses and attested by the solemnizing officer.

 

In case of a marriage in articulo mortis, when the party at the point of death is unable to sign the marriage certificate, it shall be sufficient for one of the witnesses to the marriage to write the name of said party, which fact shall be attested by the solemnizing officer. (55a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 07:

 

Marriage may be solemnized by:

 

(1) Any incumbent member of the judiciary within the court's jurisdiction; (2) Any priest, rabbi, imam, or minister of any church or religious sect duly authorized by his church or religious sect and registered with the civil registrar general, acting within the limits of the written authority granted by his church or religious sect and provided that at least one of the contracting parties belongs to the solemnizing officer's church or religious sect;
 
(3) Any ship captain or airplane chief only in the case mentioned in Article 31;
 
(4) Any military commander of a unit to which a chaplain is assigned, in the absence of the latter, during a military operation, likewise only in the cases mentioned in Article 32;
 
(5) Any consul-general, consul or vice-consul in the case provided in Article 10. (56a)


 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 08:

The marriage shall be solemnized publicly in the chambers of the judge or in open court, in the church, chapel or temple, or in the office the consul-general, consul or vice-consul, as the case may be, and not elsewhere, except in cases of marriages contracted on the point of death or in remote places in accordance with Article 29 of this Code, or where both of the parties request the solemnizing officer in writing in which case the marriage may be solemnized at a house or place designated by them in a sworn statement to that effect. (57a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 09:

 

A marriage license shall be issued by the local civil registrar of the city or municipality where either contracting party habitually resides, except in marriages where no license is required in accordance with Chapter 2 of this Title. (58a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 10:

 

Marriages between Filipino citizens abroad may be solemnized by a consul-general, consul or vice-consul of the Republic of the Philippines. The issuance of the marriage license and the duties of the local civil registrar and of the solemnizing officer with regard to the celebration of marriage shall be performed by said consular official. (75a)

 

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 11:

 

Where a marriage license is required, each of the contracting parties shall file separately a sworn application for such license with the proper local civil registrar which shall specify the following:

 

(1) Full name of the contracting party; (2) Place of birth;
 
(3) Age and date of birth;
 
(4) Civil status;
 
(5) If previously married, how, when and where the previous marriage was dissolved or annulled;
 
(6) Present residence and citizenship;
 
(7) Degree of relationship of the contracting parties;
 
(8) Full name, residence and citizenship of the father;
 
(9) Full name, residence and citizenship of the mother; and
 
(10) Full name, residence and citizenship of the guardian or person having charge, in case the contracting party has neither father nor mother and is under the age of twenty-one years.


 

The applicants, their parents or guardians shall not be required to exhibit their residence certificates in any formality in connection with the securing of the marriage license. (59a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 12:

The local civil registrar, upon receiving such application, shall require the presentation of the original birth certificates or, in default thereof, the baptismal certificates of the contracting parties or copies of such documents duly attested by the persons having custody of the originals. These certificates or certified copies of the documents by this Article need not be sworn to and shall be exempt from the documentary stamp tax. The signature and official title of the person issuing the certificate shall be sufficient proof of its authenticity.

 

If either of the contracting parties is unable to produce his birth or baptismal certificate or a certified copy of either because of the destruction or loss of the original or if it is shown by an affidavit of such party or of any other person that such birth or baptismal certificate has not yet been received though the same has been required of the person having custody thereof at least fifteen days prior to the date of the application, such party may furnish in lieu thereof his current residence certificate or an instrument drawn up and sworn to before the local civil registrar concerned or any public official authorized to administer oaths. Such instrument shall contain the sworn declaration of two witnesses of lawful age, setting forth the full name, residence and citizenship of such contracting party and of his or her parents, if known, and the place and date of birth of such party. The nearest of kin of the contracting parties shall be preferred as witnesses, or, in their default, persons of good reputation in the province or the locality.

 

The presentation of birth or baptismal certificate shall not be required if the parents of the contracting parties appear personally before the local civil registrar concerned and swear to the correctness of the lawful age of said parties, as stated in the application, or when the local civil registrar shall, by merely looking at the applicants upon their personally appearing before him, be convinced that either or both of them have the required age. (60a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 13:

 

In case either of the contracting parties has been previously married, the applicant shall be required to furnish, instead of the birth or baptismal certificate required in the last preceding article, the death certificate of the deceased spouse or the judicial decree of the absolute divorce, or the judicial decree of annulment or declaration of nullity of his or her previous marriage.

 

In case the death certificate cannot be secured, the party shall make an affidavit setting forth this circumstance and his or her actual civil status and the name and date of death of the deceased spouse. (61a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 14:

 

In case either or both of the contracting parties, not having been emancipated by a previous marriage, are between the ages of eighteen and twenty-one, they shall, in addition to the requirements of the preceding articles, exhibit to the local civil registrar, the consent to their marriage of their father, mother, surviving parent or guardian, or persons having legal charge of them, in the order mentioned. Such consent shall be manifested in writing by the interested party, who personally appears before the proper local civil registrar, or in the form of an affidavit made in the presence of two witnesses and attested before any official authorized by law to administer oaths. The personal manifestation shall be recorded in both applications for marriage license, and the affidavit, if one is executed instead, shall be attached to said applications. (61a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 15:

 

Any contracting party between the age of twenty-one and twenty-five shall be obliged to ask their parents or guardian for advice upon the intended marriage. If they do not obtain such advice, or if it be unfavorable, the marriage license shall not be issued till after three months following the completion of the publication of the application therefor. A sworn statement by the contracting parties to the effect that such advice has been sought, together with the written advice given, if any, shall be attached to the application for marriage license. Should the parents or guardian refuse to give any advice, this fact shall be stated in the sworn statement. (62a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 16:

 

In the cases where parental consent or parental advice is needed, the party or parties concerned shall, in addition to the requirements of the preceding articles, attach a certificate issued by a priest, imam or minister authorized to solemnize marriage under Article 7 of this Code or a marriage counselor duly accredited by the proper government agency to the effect that the contracting parties have undergone marriage counseling. Failure to attach said certificates of marriage counseling shall suspend the issuance of the marriage license for a period of three months from the completion of the publication of the application. Issuance of the marriage license within the prohibited period shall subject the issuing officer to administrative sanctions but shall not affect the validity of the marriage.

 

Should only one of the contracting parties need parental consent or parental advice, the other party must be present at the counseling referred to in the preceding paragraph. (n)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 17:

 

The local civil registrar shall prepare a notice which shall contain the full names and residences of the applicants for a marriage license and other data given in the applications. The notice shall be posted for ten consecutive days on a bulletin board outside the office of the local civil registrar located in a conspicuous place within the building and accessible to the general public. This notice shall request all persons having knowledge of any impediment to the marriage to advise the local civil registrar thereof. The marriage license shall be issued after the completion of the period of publication. (63a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 18:

 

In case of any impediment known to the local civil registrar or brought to his attention, he shall note down the particulars thereof and his findings thereon in the application for marriage license, but shall nonetheless issue said license after the completion of the period of publication, unless ordered otherwise by a competent court at his own instance or that of any interest party. No filing fee shall be charged for the petition nor a corresponding bond required for the issuances of the order. (64a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 19:

 

The local civil registrar shall require the payment of the fees prescribed by law or regulations before the issuance of the marriage license. No other sum shall be collected in the nature of a fee or tax of any kind for the issuance of said license. It shall, however, be issued free of charge to indigent parties, that is those who have no visible means of income or whose income is insufficient for their subsistence a fact established by their affidavit, or by their oath before the local civil registrar. (65a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 20:

 

The license shall be valid in any part of the Philippines for a period of one hundred twenty days from the date of issue, and shall be deemed automatically canceled at the expiration of the said period if the contracting parties have not made use of it. The expiry date shall be stamped in bold characters on the face of every license issued. (65a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 21:

 

When either or both of the contracting parties are citizens of a foreign country, it shall be necessary for them before a marriage license can be obtained, to submit a certificate of legal capacity to contract marriage, issued by their respective diplomatic or consular officials.

 

Stateless persons or refugees from other countries shall, in lieu of the certificate of legal capacity herein required, submit an affidavit stating the circumstances showing such capacity to contract marriage. (66a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 22:

 

The marriage certificate, in which the parties shall declare that they take each other as husband and wife, shall also state:

 

(1) The full name, sex and age of each contracting party; (2) Their citizenship, religion and habitual residence;
 
(3) The date and precise time of the celebration of the marriage;
 
(4) That the proper marriage license has been issued according to law, except in marriage provided for in Chapter 2 of this Title;
 
(5) That either or both of the contracting parties have secured the parental consent in appropriate cases;
 
(6) That either or both of the contracting parties have complied with the legal requirement regarding parental advice in appropriate cases; and
 
(7) That the parties have entered into marriage settlement, if any, attaching a copy thereof. (67a)


 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 23:

It shall be the duty of the person solemnizing the marriage to furnish either of the contracting parties the original of the marriage certificate referred to in Article 6 and to send the duplicate and triplicate copies of the certificate not later than fifteen days after the marriage, to the local civil registrar of the place where the marriage was solemnized. Proper receipts shall be issued by the local civil registrar to the solemnizing officer transmitting copies of the marriage certificate. The solemnizing officer shall retain in his file the quadruplicate copy of the marriage certificate, the copy of the marriage certificate, the original of the marriage license and, in proper cases, the affidavit of the contracting party regarding the solemnization of the marriage in place other than those mentioned in Article 8. (68a)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 24:

It shall be the duty of the local civil registrar to prepare the documents required by this Title, and to administer oaths to all interested parties without any charge in both cases. The documents and affidavits filed in connection with applications for marriage licenses shall be exempt from documentary stamp tax. (n)

 

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 25:

The local civil registrar concerned shall enter all applications for marriage licenses filed with him in a registry book strictly in the order in which the same are received. He shall record in said book the names of the applicants, the date on which the marriage license was issued, and such other data as may be necessary. (n)

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 26:.

 All marriages solemnized outside the Philippines, in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, and valid there as such, shall also be valid in this country, except those prohibited under Articles 35 (1), (4), (5) and (6), 36, 37 and 38.

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 35:

The following marriages shall be void from the beginning:

(1) Those contracted by any party below eighteen years of age even with the consent of parents or guardians; (2) Those solemnized by any person not legally authorized to perform marriages unless such marriages were contracted with either or both parties believing in good faith that the solemnizing officer had the legal authority to do so;
 
(3) Those solemnized without license, except those covered the preceding Chapter;
 
(4) Those bigamous or polygamous marriages not failing under Article 41;
 
(5) Those contracted through mistake of one contracting party as to the identity of the other; and
 
(6) Those subsequent marriages that are void under Article 53.

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 36:

 A marriage contracted by any party who, at the time of the celebration, was psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage, shall likewise be void even if such incapacity becomes manifest only after its solemnization. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 37:

Marriages between the following are incestuous and void from the beginning, whether relationship between the parties be legitimate or illegitimate:

(1) Between ascendants and descendants of any degree; and (2) Between brothers and sisters, whether of the full or half blood.

The following marriages shall be void from the beginning for reasons of public policy:

(1) Between collateral blood relatives whether legitimate or illegitimate, up to the fourth civil degree; (2) Between step-parents and step-children;
 
(3) Between parents-in-law and children-in-law;
 
(4) Between the adopting parent and the adopted child;
 
(5) Between the surviving spouse of the adopting parent and the adopted child;
 
(6) Between the surviving spouse of the adopted child and the adopter;
 
(7) Between an adopted child and a legitimate child of the adopter;
 
(8) Between adopted children of the same adopter; and
 
(9) Between parties where one, with the intention to marry the other, killed that other person's spouse, or his or her own spouse.

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 41:

A marriage contracted by any person during subsistence of a previous marriage shall be null and void, unless before the celebration of the subsequent marriage, the prior spouse had been absent for four consecutive years and the spouse present has a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead. In case of disappearance where there is danger of death under the circumstances set forth in the provisions of Article 391 of the civil code an absence of only two years shall be sufficient. For the purpose of contracting the subsequent marriage under the preceding paragraph the spouse present must institute a summary proceeding as provided in this Code for the declaration of presumptive death of the absentee, without prejudice to the effect of reappearance of the absent spouse.

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 53:

Either of the former spouses may marry again after compliance with the requirements of the immediately preceding Article; otherwise, the subsequent marriage shall be null and void.

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Penguin

Good question, per the letter of the law, I would say no.

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State Trooper

Absolutely YES. According to Article 26 Paragraph 2 of the Philippine Family Code

 

"Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law".

 

 

I am American. I married a Filipina in Cebu. I divorced her through the US courts. I remarried another Filipina and my ex-wife also remarried in the Philippines.

 

As long as the FOREIGNER is the one who brings the action, that means the foreigner is the PLAINTIFF, then the Filipino gets the legal capacity to remarry. Do Not let any attorney tell you otherwise because there are many Filipino attorneys who do not agree with the law and therefore choose to ignore it.

 

Just get a certified copy of the divorce decree to prove your legal status.

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Questions and answers about divorce between a Filipino National and a foreign spouse:

 

I am Filipino National, married to an American citizen. My spouse has obtained a divorce in the USA. May I remarry in the Philippines?

Title I, Chapter 1 (Requisites of Marriage), Article 26:.

 

All marriages solemnized outside the Philippines, in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, and valid there as such, shall also be valid in this country, except those prohibited under Articles 35 (1), (4), (5) and (6), 36, 37 and 38.

 

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 35:

 

The following marriages shall be void from the beginning:

    (1) Those contracted by any party below eighteen years of age even with the consent of parents or guardians; (2) Those solemnized by any person not legally authorized to perform marriages unless such marriages were contracted with either or both parties believing in good faith that the solemnizing officer had the legal authority to do so;
     
    (3) Those solemnized without license, except those covered the preceding Chapter;
     
    (4) Those bigamous or polygamous marriages not failing under Article 41;
     
    (5) Those contracted through mistake of one contracting party as to the identity of the other; and
     
    (6) Those subsequent marriages that are void under Article 53.

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 36:

 

A marriage contracted by any party who, at the time of the celebration, was psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage, shall likewise be void even if such incapacity becomes manifest only after its solemnization. (As amended by Executive Order 227)

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 37:

Marriages between the following are incestuous and void from the beginning, whether relationship between the parties be legitimate or illegitimate:

    (1) Between ascendants and descendants of any degree; and (2) Between brothers and sisters, whether of the full or half blood.

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 38:

 

 

The following marriages shall be void from the beginning for reasons of public policy:

    (1) Between collateral blood relatives whether legitimate or illegitimate, up to the fourth civil degree; (2) Between step-parents and step-children;
     
    (3) Between parents-in-law and children-in-law;
     
    (4) Between the adopting parent and the adopted child;
     
    (5) Between the surviving spouse of the adopting parent and the adopted child;
     
    (6) Between the surviving spouse of the adopted child and the adopter;
     
    (7) Between an adopted child and a legitimate child of the adopter;
     
    (8) Between adopted children of the same adopter; and
     
    (9) Between parties where one, with the intention to marry the other, killed that other person's spouse, or his or her own spouse.

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 41:

A marriage contracted by any person during subsistence of a previous marriage shall be null and void, unless before the celebration of the subsequent marriage, the prior spouse had been absent for four consecutive years and the spouse present has a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead. In case of disappearance where there is danger of death under the circumstances set forth in the provisions of Article 391 of the civil code an absence of only two years shall be sufficient. For the purpose of contracting the subsequent marriage under the preceding paragraph the spouse present must institute a summary proceeding as provided in this Code for the declaration of presumptive death of the absentee, without prejudice to the effect of reappearance of the absent spouse.

 

 

Title I, Chapter 3 (Void and Voidable Marriages), Article 53:

 

Either of the former spouses may marry again after compliance with the requirements of the immediately preceding Article; otherwise, the subsequent marriage shall be null and void.

 

 

 

Yes, so long as the foriegner was the petioner. If the Filipino was the petitioner the answer is no.

 

Larry in Dumaguete

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Is there a question here or is this an informational post?

 

Larry in Dumaguete

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Paul

This was posted for information, in case anyone may need it.

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fafemtp
Absolutely YES. According to Article 26 Paragraph 2 of the Philippine Family Code

 

"Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law".

 

 

I am American. I married a Filipina in Cebu. I divorced her through the US courts. I remarried another Filipina and my ex-wife also remarried in the Philippines.

 

As long as the FOREIGNER is the one who brings the action, that means the foreigner is the PLAINTIFF, then the Filipino gets the legal capacity to remarry. Do Not let any attorney tell you otherwise because there are many Filipino attorneys who do not agree with the law and therefore choose to ignore it.

 

Just get a certified copy of the divorce decree to prove your legal status.

 

In august of 2006 I went to Angeles city and married my girlfriend whom I met online. I am an American Citizen, she is filipino. After bringing her to the US and after she got her Green Card, she left and went to live with her friends that she has here, I never knew about them. I asked her why she did that to me and she told me she only married me to get a greencard and to get to US. So after several months went by and I divorced her. Since her Green Card is still a conditional Green Card which expires next year, she will most likely be deported. Now I met a really nice and sincere filipina and I want to go to Philippines to marry her and bring her here . Is this allowed? I keep reading that Divorce is not legal in Philippines except for if the spouse who marries in Philippine is an alien and then divorces in his home country, then the divorce is allowed. I am and was an alien when i married before in Philippines. So am I allowed to marry again in Philippines now that I divorced my ex filipino wife and found a real and honest woman there? Just curious? Also, when I married my ex filipino wife, I was already a divorced man. The filipino wife was actually my 2nd marriage. I had to show my divorce papers from my 1st wife in order to marry my ex filipino wife at that time. So since they allowed me , a divorced man to marry before, they should allow me to marry again as a divorced man right?

Edited by Bob Ward

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In august of 2006 I went to Angeles city and married my girlfriend whom I met online. I am an American Citizen, she is filipino. After bringing her to the US and after she got her Green Card, she left and went to live with her friends that she has here, I never knew about them. I asked her why she did that to me and she told me she only married me to get a greencard and to get to US. So after several months went by and I divorced her. Since her Green Card is still a conditional Green Card which expires next year, she will most likely be deported. Now I met a really nice and sincere filipina and I want to go to Philippines to marry her and bring her here . Is this allowed? I keep reading that Divorce is not legal in Philippines except for if the spouse who marries in Philippine is an alien and then divorces in his home country, then the divorce is allowed. I am and was an alien when i married before in Philippines. So am I allowed to marry again in Philippines now that I divorced my ex filipino wife and found a real and honest woman there? Just curious? Also, when I married my ex filipino wife, I was already a divorced man. The filipino wife was actually my 2nd marriage. I had to show my divorce papers from my 1st wife in order to marry my ex filipino wife at that time. So since they allowed me , a divorced man to marry before, they should allow me to marry again as a divorced man right?

 

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

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Big Rango

I was in the same situation, married in Cebu, took her to the US, got deployed, and the ol' medusa ran off and got a Vegas divorce.

 

I was able to remarry in Cebu rather easily. I had to apply for the license at the registrar, but they won't fully process it without the CENOMAR from the NSO. You resolve this issue by taking a certified copy of the divorce decree, your Certificate of Legal Capacity for Marriage from the embassy/consulate, your CENOMAR (you can apply for it online and have it sent to a filipino address) and your semi-completed license application to the NSO office there in downtown. There you can get an endorsement from the NSO official that will validate your CENOMAR as valid despite the listing of your previous filipino marriage. Have copies of your passport, arrival stamp, and birth certificate with you, I was asked for them, they just looked at it.

 

I did all this without any kind of greasing shenanigans, but I was also not demanding either. Be pleasant. It does take a little time, because the approving officer may not be in the office at the time. It is not procedure they perform often, but it is a standard one nonetheless.

 

The only variable is if that first marriage was in the Philippines or not. Also, the Church, well, I have no advice there, my wedding was a civil ceremony on the beach. Both times.

 

/Mildly insane.

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Huck Finn
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

 

 

Truer words have never been spoken.....

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Paul

My three rules regarding marriage to a Filipina:

 

1. Fall in love here.

2. Marry her here.

3. Stay here.

 

Any questions?

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fafemtp

Thanks Big Rango, Now I just need to find the right people where I go who will do the right job like you got. My g/f lives in Bulacan, just north of Manila. But she is just living there at her brother house helping him , she is really from Auguson del Norte. My problem is time and money lol. I am a firefighter/paramedic, I can only go there for 3 weeks. If i run into one snag I might run out of time. Should I just do a K1 visa for her? I can do that easily right?

 

I was in the same situation, married in Cebu, took her to the US, got deployed, and the ol' medusa ran off and got a Vegas divorce.

 

I was able to remarry in Cebu rather easily. I had to apply for the license at the registrar, but they won't fully process it without the CENOMAR from the NSO. You resolve this issue by taking a certified copy of the divorce decree, your Certificate of Legal Capacity for Marriage from the embassy/consulate, your CENOMAR (you can apply for it online and have it sent to a filipino address) and your semi-completed license application to the NSO office there in downtown. There you can get an endorsement from the NSO official that will validate your CENOMAR as valid despite the listing of your previous filipino marriage. Have copies of your passport, arrival stamp, and birth certificate with you, I was asked for them, they just looked at it.

 

I did all this without any kind of greasing shenanigans, but I was also not demanding either. Be pleasant. It does take a little time, because the approving officer may not be in the office at the time. It is not procedure they perform often, but it is a standard one nonetheless.

 

The only variable is if that first marriage was in the Philippines or not. Also, the Church, well, I have no advice there, my wedding was a civil ceremony on the beach. Both times.

 

/Mildly insane.

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Thanks Big Rango, Now I just need to find the right people where I go who will do the right job like you got. My g/f lives in Bulacan, just north of Manila. But she is just living there at her brother house helping him , she is really from Auguson del Norte. My problem is time and money lol. I am a firefighter/paramedic, I can only go there for 3 weeks. If i run into one snag I might run out of time. Should I just do a K1 visa for her? I can do that easily right?

The American K1 Visa is a Fianc

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The only variable is if that first marriage was in the Philippines or not. Also, the Church, well, I have no advice there, my wedding was a civil ceremony on the beach. Both times.

 

No my 1st marriage was here in US and divorce as well. My 1st wife was a real nitemare. I ended up getting sole custody of my daughter, child support which my deadbeat ex never paid, and she was ordered into anger management treatment and a bunch of other stuff which she never complied with. She fled from here (florida) and now lives in NJ i believe. We haven't heard from her in 8 years. The last time we saw her was in Dec. 2000 , she never even went to the final divorce hearing.

 

After 9/11 , i decided to become a firefighter. I was in my own building maintenance business and doing pretty good. But its a burn out business meaning it's 24/7. Always on call and stressed. I gave it up soon as I got into the fire academy. I graduated fire academy and went on to get my emt (emergency medical technician) degree and then couldn't get hired anywhere. I am too old I guess? Then I was just turning 39. I am now 43. All i am doing is volunteering at the fire department. I do the same job as a regular firefighter, only they dont pay hardly anything except give me a pension and about 30 dollars a shift. So I went on to earn my Paramedic degree and also my AAS diploma in EMS. So now i work as a paramedic for an ambulance company, volunteer 2 shifts a week at fire dept. and I work part time as an CNA nurse for a healthcare agency who specializes in providing nursing care to handicapped and terminally ill children. Fun huh? i dont do it because they pay well, i just feel sorry for a lot of these kids, their families can't or don't know how to deal with them. Most have some type of cancer or severe handicap. I guess it's hard for some people to hold and takecare of their dying child, so I do it for them. I can't judge them.

 

So one day in Jan 2006 i'm sitting here BSing with some other firefighters on Myspace.com and I get this message from this 19 year old girl from the Philippines. I almost didn't even open the message when I saw it was a 19 year old girl, I actually had the pointer sitting on the delete button. but I don't know, I just opened it, like I can't even remember why i did. But it was a nice message. She seemed very nice. She seemed lonely I guess. I knew nothing about the Philippines, absolutley nothing. So i talked to her, I figured the worst that can happen is I will learn something about the Philippines, right? I already said to my self soon as she starts asking me for money or giving me sob stories about being poor or asking me for stuff then I would put her on my ignore list. So we talked for a few weeks and I just fell into like lol. I liked her a lot. She was very mature, talked very nice to me. Never nasty , never asked me for a dime. She had been attending College for 2 years but her dad couldn't afford it anymore so she stopped. I went there 7 months later, met her mom and dad. She had turned 20 years old now. i was in love with her. I fell in love with her family too. Her dad is so nice, her family is really nice. They all speak English well. me and her dad talk all the time, even now we still talk. I don't think they talk to my ex much. I think they are embarassed of her. They even ask me to come stay with them when I go to Philippines. Anyway she turned out to be a real piece of crap. I know I am not the most pleaseant person to live with as my mom says lol. but I don't drink, smoke, do dope, or anything bad. I took care of her and gave her family money every month.

 

i met this new girl now, she is differen't . I know I know every bozo says the same thing lol. But I'm not a fool, atleast not anymore. I really just want to do K1 for her. This way that gives me another 6 or 7 months to know her more online and maybe 1 or 2 visits there to see her between now and her interview. And then also gives me another 3 months to live with her after she gets the visa and comes here and really be 10000% sure of everything. But the idea of marriage there came up and when I heard it might be a problem ,well i'm pissed off because I know what kinda BS the PH govt is. This is all a bunch of crap. Just like NBI clearence lol , Charles Mansion can get NBI clearence if the right hand is slipped a 500p note, now they are going to tell me I can't get married? The other reason, which is really the main reason I am mad is that I feel bad about dragging her here on a K1 and her family not being with her for the Wedding, etc, etc. She is really a good girl. She is not one of these online 20 hours a day girls. Of course I am going to really make sure when I get there, I know what to look for. But I am confident this one is good.

 

Here is the final thought, and i'm sorry for making this all so long of a post. But I have another idea. I always read things about how much more easy and up to date the people are in Cebu. Things are done more correctly there lets say. manila is a big massive piece of crap. And I just know I am going to get some asshole there at city hall or NSO who is a know nothing waste. And they going to make my life miserable with this. I just know it. Its my luck. But what if I take my girlfriend to Cebu and marry her there? I know she isn't a resident there but so what right? Maybe one of you guys can help me on that, let me use an address there? Help me out with this. I was planning on going to boracay with her, but I been there 4 times already, it sucks. But I hear Cebu is even nicer?? I want to go to Cebu and see it atleast. I can really use a break in life, just once please God lol. Anyone have any ideas on this for me?

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If your intention is to marry her here, once you have the marriage license, you can be married anywhere in the country.

 

However, you seem to be confused as to what you want to do... K1 and take her to the US? Marry her here and file a K3? What do I do? Honestly, before you jump and do anything, I would take a step back and think this whole thing over. I mean, I don't know how old you are, but damn, you have the rest of your life to be married.

 

Anyway, the bottom line to your previous questions are, yes. You can marry her here, no matter where either of you are from.

 

Just keep one thing in mind here. You have been burned once. So, you may want to think about the - once burned, twice shy line.

 

All I am saying is, TAKE YOUR TIME.

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