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Does anyone know if it's been done before? Used Quads in the USA are cheap and reliable. I figure I could tear one down and ship it over in a few boxes.

I just don't like the Chinese stuff I have seen. Quad would be used out in the province so no license necessary.  Has anyone ever licensed a Quad here for street use? Is that possible?

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Woolf
1 hour ago, PhilsFan said:

Has anyone ever licensed a Quad here for street use? Is that possible?

NOT possible

trikes  can be registered 

Billedresultat for tricke

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colemanlee
1 hour ago, Woolf said:

NOT possible

Anything is possible

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Dafey

225K Kymco on Motortrade. 300cc maybe?

KYMCO Mongoose 300

150cc budget option, 153K

KYMCO MXU 150

Might be able to liscence this one, but in the province there's no need. 450cc Gentleman's version a bargain at 550K !!!

KYMCO UXV 450i

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T.S.
1 minute ago, Dafey said:

225K Kymco on Motortrade. 300cc maybe?

KYMCO Mongoose 300

150cc budget option, 153K

KYMCO MXU 150

Might be able to liscence this one, but in the province there's no need. 450cc Gentleman's version a bargain at 550K !!!

KYMCO UXV 450i

I'm not sure how Kymco is for quality, but I took an ATV tour here with some other cheap Chinese ATV's and they felt/rode terrible compared to any Japanese or North American brand ATV I have experienced in the past. 

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4 hours ago, Woolf said:

NOT possible

In the Philippines ATVs can be registered as legal street vehicles, as long as they meet all the LTO requirements, like front- and back-lights, stop-lights, turn signals, horn etc.

Reproduced below is the full text of LTO Memorandum Circular AVT-2015-1927 (No Registration, No Travel Policy). Incidentally, in an Advisory published in newspapers, the LTO announced that: “In line with the implementation of NO REGISTRATION-NO TRAVEL policy, starting April 1, 2015, please be advised that only LTO Law Enforcers and LTO Deputized Agents in complete uniform with valid ID and carrying LTO issued Temporary Operators Permit (TOP) are authorized to stop vehicles and apprehend those in violation of the same.”

 

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Republic of the Philippines
Department of Transportation and Communications
LAND TRANSPORTATION OFFICE
East Avenue, Quezon City

MEMORANDUM CIRCULAR NO. AVT-2015-1927

SUBJECT : NO REGISTRATION – NO TRAVEL

DATE: 20 March 2015

Starting 01 April 2015, no four (4)-wheeled motor vehicle can be used, driven or operated on the roads without being duly registered with the Land Transportation Office (LTO) pursuant to R.A. 4136, Joint Administrative Order No. 2014-01 and other applicable rules and regulations.

1. Any vehicle without license plates shall be stopped and the driver must present the Certificate of Registration (CR) and Official Receipt (OR) of the vehicle;

2. If only CR/OR are presented, a fine of Php 5,000.00 shall be imposed for failure to attach the plates;

3. In case Special Plates were applied for, the driver must present the OR for the payment;

4. If without CR/OR, the driver must present the following:

a. Certificate of Stock Reported;

b. Sales Invoice, which must be dated within seven (7) days prior to the apprehension; and

c. Certificate of Insurance Cover, which must be dated on or after the date of the Sales Invoice.

5. In the absence of any of the above, the vehicle owner shall be fined the amount of Php 10,000.00 for using an unregistered vehicle and the driver shall be fined the amount of Php 1,000.00 and cited for reckless driving;

6. Further, if at the time of apprehension the date of the Sales Invoice exceeds thirty-seven (37) days from the date of purchase, the vehicle shall be impounded;

7. This is without prejudice to the liability of the concerned manufacturer, assembler, importer and dealer; and

8. All apprehensions may be contested within five (5) days therefrom.

For strict compliance.

(signed)
ATTY. ALFONSO V. TAN, JR.
Assistant Secretary

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Woolf
44 minutes ago, HTM said:

In the Philippines ATVs can be registered as legal street vehicles, as long as they meet all the LTO requirements, like front- and back-lights, stop-lights, turn signals, horn etc.

the memo you qouted, says nothing about ATVs/QUADs

I have read here many times that LTO will not register them

Maybe @shadow can put a word or two about it

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shadow posted the below on page 2

https://www.livingincebuforums.com/topic/6934-atv-or-quadd/?page=2

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There currently is no laws in place for them, and cannot be registered. They are considered an offroad vehicle, and as such are not for highway use. Some unscrupulous companies were/are registering new units as motorcycles, in order to make the sale. However, when it comes time to re-register, it becomes difficult. Of the 30 or so that I am in direct association with, none have been successfully re-registered once that initial year is up.

 

That being said, they are driven on the streets in this area without being registered and without problems. LTO so far has ignored the issue, but have told people riding them to stay off the national highways. The city streets and backroads don't seem to make a difference to them for now. If it did bother an LTO officer, your registration would be voided anyway as I assume it yours is registered as a motorcycle?

 

 

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Karadjoa

That sounds pretty much like everything here everything is possible.

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colemanlee
1 hour ago, Karadjoa said:

That sounds pretty much like everything here everything is possible.

My experience is that depending on where you live, you can drive anything.   Our land in the province is 20 km at least from the nearest government agency of any kind, here in the city, generally, the traffic enforcers, LTO, and everybody else except the PNP are gone by sundown and PNP does not do traffic stops for the most part.

Im sure Cebu is different, as is Manila

I was sitting on the porch one night having a beer with a local friend of mine, older guy with a political base...we were discussing a law passed in Manila concerning how many can ride on a motorcycle, he smiles and says "don't worry about the laws they pass in the cities, it does not affect us here"   which is pretty much the attitude of everybody here, which is one of the major reasons I choose to live here, freedom to do pretty much anything you want as long as you don't mess with anybody else.

So to the OP, again it depends on where you live in the Philippines.

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Dafey

As far as shipping one in several BBs, its a risk. I've never had a problem with any BBs I shipped. Never been opened, taxed or as far as I know never been given a second look. However, there is always a possibility that they could check. They tried to tighten up the rules and restrictions last year but it did not go over well. We haven't shipped since then and don't know if they still require a "contents" list.

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Davaoeno

I am not familiar with the rules and regulations regarding this . However, while it seems to be illegal to import multicabs it is obviously ok to cut one up and ship it here in pieces and then reassemble it upon arrival .

I don't see why shipping a quad in pieces would be any different .  You might even be able to describe the contents as " used parts for quad".

If you do that I would suggest that you do not ship all the parts at the same time ! lol 

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PhilsFan

Thank you, everyone, for your insights and thoughts. Next trip back to US I am going to ship one over. I will let everyone know how it goes. I may try a small motocrosser, too, for my boy.

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colemanlee
1 hour ago, PhilsFan said:

Thank you, everyone, for your insights and thoughts. Next trip back to US I am going to ship one over. I will let everyone know how it goes. I may try a small motocrosser, too, for my boy.

Just a note, when I moved here I shipped a total of 41 bb boxes, everything from tools to household goods, computers, electronics etc.   Not one of the bb boxes was opened or misplaced, yes it took three or so months to get them here in Tacloban, but they all got here, and the one with the tools probably weighed in excess of 150 lbs.

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smokey

Dont.tell any one even your neighbor or you could be accused of smuggling and foreigners always get the max time.  Its really stupid your trying to sneak an illegal item into the country maybe you think its a slap on the wrist if caught just pay the tax and do the paper work 

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