lopburi3 601 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Headshot said: It is unfortunate that one of the Thai SEALs died during the rescue operation. He had ferried oxygen into the cave, and was on his way back out when he ran out of oxygen and died. https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/07/09/15/08/thai-cave-rescue-saman-gunan-drowned-seal-divers-wife-feels-dead-but-im-still-alive Actually he was a retired seal and worked as a security guard at Bangkok airport who had the knowledge to help and died doing so. A tragedy when good people lose their lives and do not see the positive results of their work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
badian 192 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 the BBC have now amended their radio news bulletins to say that the rescue team 'included' Brits, instead of saying that it was 'led' by them. Presumably after somebody called them up on it and told them that they were talking through their ass on the news and that it sounded like Fox. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Administrator +Dafey 14,810 Posted July 10, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 hours ago, lopburi3 said: Actually he was a retired seal and worked as a security guard at Bangkok airport who had the knowledge to help and died doing so. A tragedy when good people lose their lives and do not see the positive results of their work. God bless him for his heroism. RIP 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Administrator +Salty Dog 68,088 Posted July 11, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 1:45 PM, Kabisay-an gid said: It's the Royal Thai Navy Seals that are involved with the rescue operation. The U.S. Navy SEALs have no involvement with the operation.. Quote ..Members of the 353rd U.S. Special Operations Group and U.S. military pararescue teams, survival specialists, divers and medical personnel are on the ground in support of the Thai-led international rescue effort... https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/07/08/us-special-ops-help-rescue-4-members-soccer-team-trapped-cave.html?ESRC=eb_180709.nl 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lopburi3 601 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, Salty Dog said: ..Members of the 353rd U.S. Special Operations Group and U.S. military pararescue teams, survival specialists, divers and medical personnel are on the ground in support of the Thai-led international rescue effort... https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/07/08/us-special-ops-help-rescue-4-members-soccer-team-trapped-cave.html?ESRC=eb_180709.nl But the seal teams involved in actual rescue effort were from Thailand - not USA or any other nation. The need was not for open water divers but for those experienced in cave diving (entirely different) and those were volunteers, some Americans and others from within Thailand and then mostly from UK (who had an organized roster of such people). The major medical factor was from Oz and likely is a major factor in the successful rescue. But as mentioned it was individuals and teams from many countries working together and all can take pride and deserve to share in the success. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Oz Jon 2,476 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, lopburi3 said: But the seal teams involved in actual rescue effort were from Thailand - not USA or any other nation. ....... Not quite correct. Certainly, Thai navy personnel played a major part in the rescue, supported by a few foreigners with various skills. But the actual rescues were performed by UK cave-diving experts*, An Aus doctor/cave-diver and 3 Thai navy SEALS. All of them (and the Thai management) are to be congratulated on performing such a difficult task so well. * I haven't seen any credible reports that these UK cave-diving experts were military personnel. I understand that they are civilian volunteers. Edited July 11, 2018 by Oz Jon addition Link to post Share on other sites
Administrator +Dafey 14,810 Posted July 11, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 11, 2018 Well thank heavens they are safe...whoever is responsible! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
lopburi3 601 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Oz Jon said: Not quite correct. Certainly, Thai navy personnel played a major part in the rescue, supported by a few foreigners with various skills. But the actual rescues were performed by UK cave-diving experts*, An Aus doctor/cave-diver and 3 Thai navy SEALS. All of them (and the Thai management) are to be congratulated on performing such a difficult task so well. * I haven't seen any credible reports that these UK cave-diving experts were military personnel. I understand that they are civilian volunteers. Actually I thought that was what I posted - the seal team was Thai but the main force was civilian divers, mostly British. In fact there were 5 Thai seals in each rescue mission from all reports I have seen. But remember there were many more divers involved in supply missions and for initial pathfinding - and many of them were Thai seal team members. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
oztony 36,115 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, lopburi3 said: Actually I thought that was what I posted It was what you posted .... I am sure if Jon read back he too would see that , sometimes a quick glance on the way through can register a different impression...no biggy.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lopburi3 601 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 What has come to light today is that there were hundreds of people providing short stretcher carry to next team in all the non swimming areas - and that about 2 hours after rescue main water pump failed and levels increased quickly - the 100 or so remaining just made it out before it became a swimming pool again. And the unfortunate news that Oz doctors father passed away only hours after rescue completed. Foreign tourists were trying to to go cave exploring today. ? Link to post Share on other sites
Kabisay-an gid 6,803 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Salty Dog said: ..Members of the 353rd U.S. Special Operations Group and U.S. military pararescue teams, survival specialists, divers and medical personnel are on the ground in support of the Thai-led international rescue effort... https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/07/08/us-special-ops-help-rescue-4-members-soccer-team-trapped-cave.html?ESRC=eb_180709.nl Your article makes no mention of the U.S. Navy SEALS, so thanks for confirming my statement that no U.S. Navy SEALS participated in the Thailand cave rescue. The 353rd SOG is part of the U.S. Air Force. . Edited July 11, 2018 by Kabisay-an gid Link to post Share on other sites
Administrator +Salty Dog 68,088 Posted July 11, 2018 Administrator Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Kabisay-an gid said: Your article makes no mention of the U.S. Navy SEALS, so thanks for confirming my statement that no Navy SEALS participated in the Thailand cave rescue. The 353rd SOG is part of the U.S. Air Force. Yea, I don't think cave diving is high on the military seal training regiment... Link to post Share on other sites
Oz Jon 2,476 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 19 hours ago, lopburi3 said: Actually I thought that was what I posted - the seal team was Thai but the main force was civilian divers, mostly British. In fact there were 5 Thai seals in each rescue mission from all reports I have seen. But remember there were many more divers involved in supply missions and for initial pathfinding - and many of them were Thai seal team members. You are right! - Sorry that I misinterpreted what you said - I am imperfect! (but working on that - Lol) Cheers 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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