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Monsoon

 

Speak it well enough and they will mistake you / assume you are Filipino of some sort.

In fact, that is exactly how it has been asked of me on occasion, "Serr, what kind of Filipino are you?" 

 

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Flakes
15 minutes ago, Monsoon said:

 

Speak it well enough and they will mistake you / assume you are Filipino of some sort.

In fact, that is exactly how it has been asked of me on occasion, "Serr, what kind of Filipino are you?" 

 

Haha Maybe because u to much with u face in the sun? If u see me its obvious i am not a Pinoy even if i would speak the language fluently 

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Monsoon
3 minutes ago, Flakes said:

If u see me its obvious i am not a Pinoy

That's what I thought too...

But one gets asked a lot of things in the Philippines that you would think are just obvious...

 

 

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Busted Dick
10 hours ago, Davaoeno said:

As I recall the promo on Linc promised your money back to anyone who wasn't happy with the course

Not sure but I was very happy with the course so wouldn't be interested in a refund.

9 hours ago, oztony said:

Your purchase price ability will greatly improve by knowing the language , this is my experience over the last 14 years anyway....

I agree.  Once they know that you are making an effort to learn the language, or at the least have a few words in your vocabulary, then you are very much less likely to get ripped off.  I pay local prices at my local market; at least with the stallholders who know me.

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TequilaSunset

I 'm learning Visayan for the GF, it makes her happy, and as a military brat growing up in Germany I remember all to well being forced to learn German in school. The military felt it was important to attempt to assimilate, and so do I (plus i want to know some of the chit being spoken around me) 

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Goetz1965

Maybe someone knows a good course online or where to get a good teacher here in Cebu.

 

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spydoo

The video content of Bud's course is still on Youtube: 

 

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Headshot
1 hour ago, TequilaSunset said:

I  want to know some of the chit being spoken around me

...and THAT is the main reason why expats learn the local lingo. :popcorn:

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Flakes
1 hour ago, Goetz1965 said:

Maybe someone knows a good course online or where to get a good teacher here in Cebu.

 

To study Tagalog or Visaya?

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Richard K

.... Wala....

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RR3

Mostly it ends up that I talk to them in Cebuano and they reply in Pinglish...

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22 minutes ago, RR3 said:

Mostly it ends up that I talk to them in Cebuano and they reply in Pinglish...

Even some of the soaps my girl seems to love are mostly taglish.
I cannot seem to get my head around tagalog... I have a smathering of french, spanish, german.. I can actually get by in parts of Canada... and that is not even really french any longer.
I think if I were younger I might be more able... I think we learn slower when we are older... but then I am pretty much an up-state NY hick also... even the english I speak is often misunderstood...
Also?.. It does not help that am deaf in one ear. When there is background noise (which there always seems to be) I have trouble picking out the words. even with people here that speak engish the accents always seem to be on odd parts of the phrase...
Deaf in one ear and can't see out of the other... it's a bitch getting old..... ;) 

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Busted Dick
6 hours ago, RR3 said:

Mostly it ends up that I talk to them in Cebuano and they reply in Pinglish...

Hahaha!  That is exactly why I did not finish the course I was doing; I tried so hard, got to a stage that I could hold some conversations (depending on what they were about) in Cebuano; yet on so many occasions the replies would be in English!  As Bud Brown said, to learn a language you need to immerse yourself in it; that's so hard here because most of the residents speak English reasonably well.

6 hours ago, Richard K said:

... It does not help that am deaf in one ear. When there is background noise (which there always seems to be) I have trouble picking out the words. even with people here that speak engish the accents always seem to be on odd parts of the phrase...

I have that problem too.  Even with my other half I sometimes struggle to understand what she is saying; I will often scold her for speaking Japanese/Chinese/Swahili but the reality is that she is speaking English rather well but this old fool cannot hear properly!

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2 hours ago, Busted Dick said:

Hahaha!  That is exactly why I did not finish the course I was doing; I tried so hard, got to a stage that I could hold some conversations (depending on what they were about) in Cebuano; yet on so many occasions the replies would be in English!  As Bud Brown said, to learn a language you need to immerse yourself in it; that's so hard here because most of the residents speak English reasonably well.

I have that problem too.  Even with my other half I sometimes struggle to understand what she is saying; I will often scold her for speaking Japanese/Chinese/Swahili but the reality is that she is speaking English rather well but this old fool cannot hear properly!

Dont they sell these small hearing aids? Or is that not cool?

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sugbu777

Jeez, I spent so much time on this side of the world, when I go back to US to visit my family complains that they can't understand my accent when I'm speaking English. :P Especially if I use Philippine or Chamorro accent. Its a hard habit to break.

My pal in Hawaii can jump from perfect English to "Da Kine" without even giving it a thought.

My wife's family says they can always understand me, but not other Kanos.  "Oooo kuya, your English is so good." Ha...I'm speaking with their accent. Eh...it works...at least they do understand (or at least pretend to) when we speak.

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oztony
13 minutes ago, sugbu777 said:

 My wife's family says they can always understand me, but not other Kanos.  "Oooo kuya, your English is so good." Ha...I'm speaking with their accent. Eh...it works...at least they do understand (or at least pretend to) when we speak.

Yep , you get used to having to even pronounce english words in their accent , otherwise they just don't get what you are saying or it takes longer for them to catch on , 

Particularly with us Aussies who talk fast and have a slightly different version of english , they do seem to catch onto the American version a lot easier...IMO

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25 minutes ago, oztony said:

Yep , you get used to having to even pronounce english words in their accent , otherwise they just don't get what you are saying or it takes longer for them to catch on , 

Particularly with us Aussies who talk fast and have a slightly different version of english , they do seem to catch onto the American version a lot easier...IMO

I don't understand half of what you Aussies say either!

 

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M.C.A.

I stopped the Philippine accent after listening to myself on a video it didn't sound so good but many posters here have a point and they probably do understand better with an accent... so what I did was speak slower (not louder) and it seems to work, I watch YouTube videos of expats and I shake my head at their English or Tagilish accent it's nutty and not needed.

This also applies to Tagalog or other dialects if you can't get the accent right they won't understand what you are saying or will say "Speak English", had a guy say that to me once, Lol.  So real important for those that want to learn the language to either listen carefully to the accent or if you do purchase a Tagalog program make sure it comes with spelling and voice recognition software, with this software it will ask you to pronounce the words if you don't do it right it keeps you there until you get it.

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Jim Sibbick
On 8/30/2017 at 5:32 AM, Flakes said:

. But even tough  living in Cebu i guess i will choose Tagalog?

For what possible reason?

My only reason for learning Tagalog would be to watch a Tagalog language movie.

 

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Flakes
1 hour ago, Jim Sibbick said:

For what possible reason?

My only reason for learning Tagalog would be to watch a Tagalog language movie.

 

Hmmm well lets say i go to a language school in Cebu then what will the teacher teach the foreigners ? Tagalog or Visaya?

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oztony
12 minutes ago, Flakes said:

Hmmm well lets say i go to a language school in Cebu then what will the teacher teach the foreigners ? Tagalog or Visaya?

Whatever you want to damn well learn , if you are going to hang out in Luzon , learn Tagalog.

If you are planning on staying in the Visaya's you would be foolish not to learn Cebuano, I mean really , is it that difficult for you to get a grasp on this ......

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13 minutes ago, oztony said:

That was answered ...Both of the main used languages Tagalog and Bisaya/Cebuano

In the Visaya's children are taught Bisaya , Tagalog and English on Luzon they are taught Tagalog and English,

As has been suggested if you plan on locating yourself in the Visaya's it would be far more beneficial to learn Cebuano "murag wala gyud ka kasabot"

And yes my Bisaya sucks , but if no one can speak English I can scrape by....how about you????

Look its a bit tricky picture ur self in Barcelona and u want to learn the language now which one would u select Spanish or Catelan? Both are official languages but outside the north of spain Catalan is useless so i would choose for Spanish. If i learn Tagolog i get by all parts of phills while Visayas only usefull in Cebu.

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oztony
26 minutes ago, Flakes said:

If i learn Tagolog i get by all parts of phills 

That is true ....but unless you were spending most of your time in Luzon it would not be as beneficial as learning Bisaya , 

26 minutes ago, Flakes said:

while Visayas only usefull in Cebu.

Not so , it covers a vast area other than Cebu

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bernadette

I am a Filipino, we speak 2 dialect at home Tagalog and Bisaya(papa is from Luzon, Batangueño from Batangas  while mom is from Mindanao bt grow up here in Cebu) but I am so much comfortable with BISAYA specially when I am really pissed with someone, I dunno bt I really feel good saying "giatay man diay ka pestiha ka" rather than "putang ina mo"...ooops! sorry for that word!  

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Jawny

Even though Tagalog is taught in my area, it is not commonly spoken. English is a better choice as a language understood by many. My children struggle each year to get a passing grade in Tagalog.

even speaking Tagalog in my area can be an issue if you go to a Waray region.  Then, even if a visayan speaker tries to use the "common" language of Tagalog, both speakers can have a hard time being understood because of their respective accents.   

Keep in mind, as you learn the language, you also have to listen to it.  Meaning, some things are better not heard (understood). 

Its amusing to witness people cursing in English, and not getting upset.  But, once a "bad word" is spoken in the dialect, look out!

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