LinC guide to stopping the terrorists in Philippines

[wondersailor 752]

First, you have to identify what your enemy's goals are. In Isis' case, the only want to kill every Christian, Jew, Muslim (who doesn't believe as they do), Buddist, Hindu, Animist, Atheist, Agnostic they can. Basically, they want to kill every homo sapien who is not Isis. Second, you ( most countries in the world) are too delicate to get down on their level and do to them what they so desperately want to do to you, your wife, your children, your siblings, your parents and everyone else you have ever known. The result is a forgone conclusion at this point unless you are willing to adopt their tactics. I think most of us know what has to be done but are desperate for another answer. I don't think there is one.

[Jim_in_Jax 336]

40 minutes ago, wondersailor said:

The result is a forgone conclusion at this point unless you are willing to adopt their tactics. I think most of us know what has to be done but are desperate for another answer. I don't think there is one.

Being retired USMC, I've always believed in the scorched earth theory.  The problem is there are too many tender hearts running things.  Remember the "shock and awe" beginning of Iraq war?  If I had a say so in it, there wouldn't have been two bricks left to stack on one another to build anything.  Wake up boys, hell on earth has arrived.  I wouldn't use nuclear weapons.  That doesn't give our pilots any action.  I'd conventional bomb that stuff into oblivion.  No need to go in to pick up bodies because there aren't any pieces big enough to pick up.

[lolhahaha 1,426]

2 hours ago, Jim_in_Jax said:

 Remember the "shock and awe" beginning of Iraq war?  If I had a say so in it, there wouldn't have been two bricks left to stack on one another to build anything.

Sounds good but they attacked the wrong country. Anybody paying attention at the time knew this but as soon as 9/11 happened, within weeks, they were talking about Iraq, never Saudi Arabia. WTF?

And the big talk at the time was that "we're going after anybody funding the terrorists".

Really?

[spydoo 2,044]

10 minutes ago, lolhahaha said:

Sounds good but they attacked the wrong country. Anybody paying attention at the time knew this but as soon as 9/11 happened, within weeks, they were talking about Iraq, never Saudi Arabia. WTF?

And the big talk at the time was that "we're going after anybody funding the terrorists".

Really?

And the rest of the world is now well aware the US was willing to launch a war against a country while lying about the reason just to get control of oil. It was pretty much the end of any moral superiority the US had over its enemies.

[Ozepete 10,115]

3 hours ago, Jim_in_Jax said:

Being retired USMC, I've always believed in the scorched earth theory.  The problem is there are too many tender hearts running things.  Remember the "shock and awe" beginning of Iraq war?  If I had a say so in it, there wouldn't have been two bricks left to stack on one another to build anything.  Wake up boys, hell on earth has arrived.  I wouldn't use nuclear weapons.  That doesn't give our pilots any action.  I'd conventional bomb that stuff into oblivion.  No need to go in to pick up bodies because there aren't any pieces big enough to pick up.

Sic

OK then, so lets say they start with your neighbourhood. Are you good with that. 

[davedude 250]

10 hours ago, Headshot said:

Sometimes the only solution is to turn the sand into glass. Cleanse the desert.

The threat should be there and I agree a retaliatory strike should have been made on Saudi Arabia. Not a nuke (although it would not bother me much to see a nuke strike there) but punishing massive ordinance on targets to let them know if we are attacked by Islam again then the seat of Islam in the world will suffer. Strike and withdraw. Same should have been done in Afsuckistan. Strike and withdraw. I never understood Iraq. I mean WTF?The intervention there was the work of bloody progressive usurpers infesting the FEDGOV and not something a true constitutional conservative would have done.

Absolutely nothing the FEDGOV does is constitutional any more.

[lamoe 15,623]

16 minutes ago, Ozepete said:

Sic

OK then, so lets say they start with your neighbourhood. Are you good with that. 

First of all I doubt there are any active terrorist  in my neighborhood - if there were -I'd leave and then you could bomb the shit of out it.

[Davaoeno 38,448]

11 hours ago, Headshot said:

Sometimes the only solution is to turn the sand into glass. Cleanse the desert.

Based on your knowledge and experience Bill when exactly did that  " only solution "  occur ?   I'm pretty sure that since I can not find any history of that ever happening you are talking about something that you  actually know nothing about.  

Surely thoughts of genocide are frowned on by most people  ?

[davedude 250]

5 hours ago, RogerDat said:

The ex military members on this forum are most likely to old and broken down to get involved in anything similar to physical combat anymore. We cannot own weapons or such needed for the fight if we could do any fighting. Check with Seal Team 6 in Duma and ask there views LOL

With respect you can lay down and die if that is what you prefer.

I would rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. No government anywhere can tell me I have no right to defend myself or my family. I do not recognize that "authority". Fortunately the Philippine government does allow guns in the house in certain ways. Good enough.

I may not be able to run anymore (ankle) but I can damn sure shoot. If they dont get the drop on me then they are in trouble for sure. Here in Texas I am vetted by the government to legally carry. Law abiding good guy and can help the government with my guns if they request it. I would assist the Philippine government the same way. Just the same way my ancestor helped the US government way back in the day when they called up the Massachusetts citizen militia during the Revolutionary war.

To each his own and I respect your right to do as you please but will never understand people who do not train with firearms.

[SkyMan 26,673]

Develop a highly contagious and deadly disease that can only be cured through long term ingestion of small daily doses of pork products.

[Monsoon 28,943]

5 minutes ago, SkyMan said:

Develop a highly contagious and deadly disease that can only be cured through long term ingestion of small daily doses of pork products.

That would take out those annoying vegans too. But we'd still be left  with the gluten-free yahoos. 

[SkyMan 26,673]

Well, you can't kill everybody......or can you?  Hmmmm

[Monsoon 28,943]

4 minutes ago, SkyMan said:

Well, you can't kill everybody......or can you?  Hmmmm

That would certainly end all of the fighting! 

[Headshot 29,772]

1 hour ago, Davaoeno said:

Based on your knowledge and experience Bill when exactly did that  " only solution "  occur ?   I'm pretty sure that since I can not find any history of that ever happening you are talking about something that you  actually know nothing about.  

Surely thoughts of genocide are frowned on by most people  ?

Your opinion is exactly why I think we have probably already lost the war against the Islamists. Too many people in the West are not willing to do what is necessary to avoid being annihilated by the radical Islamists. There will come a time when people in the West will rethink their position on this conflict between cultures and religions, but I'm afraid it will already be too late. Hell, it is probably already too late.

[PhilsFan 1,466]

Guys,

Can we weave our way back on to the topic of  possible solutions to the real threat of terrorism here in the philippines?  We the members living near the violence aren't likely to do any of the fighting unless our neighborhoods were to be over-run. Bombing CDO or Davao into dirt is a not-so-appealing option. Perhaps there are other suggestions?

Would like to hear from some of our Filipino members what they think are possible solutions, too.

Edited June 4, 2017 by PhilsFan