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The U.S. Department of Defense is investigating hundreds of Marines who used social media to solicit and share hundreds — possibly thousands — of naked photographs of female service members and veterans.

Since Jan. 30, more than two dozen women – many on active duty, including officers and enlisted service members – have been identified by their full name, rank and military duty station in photographs posted and linked to from a private Facebook page.

In one instance, a female corporal in uniform was followed at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, by a fellow Marine, who surreptitiously photographed her as she picked up her gear. Those photographs were posted on the Facebook group Marines United, which has nearly 30,000 followers, drawing dozens of obscene comments.

One member of the Facebook group suggested that the service member sneaking the photos should “take her out back and pound her out.” Others suggested more than vaginal sex:

“And butthole. And throat. And ears. Both of them. Video it though … for science.”

Senior officials with Headquarters Marine Corps have verified that incident, as well as the distribution of photographs of other active-duty and veteran women through the page and links to a Google Drive.

The photo sharing began less than a month after the first Marine infantry unit was assigned women Jan. 5. It underscores ongoing problems of sexual harassment within military ranks and could hurt recruitment of women. Officials within the Defense Department confirmed it also puts service members at risk for blackmail and jeopardizes national security.

The activity on the Marines United page was uncovered by The War Horse, a nonprofit news organization run by Marine veteran Thomas Brennan. Within a day of Brennan contacting Marine Corps headquarters Jan. 30, social media accounts behind the sharing had been deleted by Facebook and Google at the Corps’ request, and a formal investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service has been launched.

However, it is clear that the actions taken so far have not stopped the activity: Photos of the woman followed at Camp Lejeune were posted on Marines United on Feb. 16, more than two weeks after the linking accounts had been shut down. The Marine who shot those photos has been discharged from active duty, Marine Corps officials confirmed.

“We need to be brutally honest with ourselves and each other: This behavior hurts fellow Marines, family members, and civilians. It is a direct attack on our ethos and legacy,” Sgt. Maj. Ronald L. Green, the most senior enlisted Marine on active duty, wrote in an email response. “It is inconsistent with our Core Values, and it impedes our ability to perform our mission.”

The service is deeply concerned about the damage the incident could do to the Marines, according to a document provided to generals Friday warning them of the upcoming story.

The 10-page “Office of Marine Corps Communications Public Affairs Guidance” lists resources for victims, including a website to report crimes, and provides talking points for other media and members of Congress – who, it suggested, will want answers. It also outlines another possible blow to come: inappropriate responses from Marines.

“The story will likely spark shares and discussions across social media, offering venues for Marines and former Marines who may victim blame, i.e., ‘they shouldn’t have taken the photos in the first place,’ or bemoan that they believe the Corps is becoming soft or politically correct,” it said.

Facebook messages seeking comment sent today to Marines United’s current administrators were not returned. At least three of those listed on the page were aware of the activity: Two participated in comment strings about the photos and another “liked” one of them.

More than 2,500 comments about the photos were left by group members, many of whom used their personal Facebook accounts that include their names, ranks and duty stations. Some invited others to collect, identify and share photos of naked or scantily clad servicewomen. Based on their profiles, service members who participated in the photo sharing are stationed around the world — from Japan to North Carolina — and across military branches, from air wing to infantry.

Dozens of now-deleted Google Drive folders linked from the Facebook page included dossiers of women containing their names, military branches, nude photographs, screenshots of their social media accounts and images of sexual acts. Dozens of other subfolders included unidentifiable women in various stages of undress. Many images appear to have originated from the consensual, but private, exchange of racy images, some clearly taken by the women themselves.

After the accounts were deleted, the Marine Corps contacted the employer of the Marine veteran who initially posted the Google Drive link on Marines United. He was fired from his position as a government subcontractor in the United States, according to Maj. Clark Carpenter, a Marine Corps spokesman.

The War Horse has spoken with five of the women in the photographs. Two said they believe former partners might have leaked images. Some said they worry their own accounts might have been hacked or poached. One said a co-worker, a male Marine, alerted her to the fact that the photographs had been posted.

The corporal photographed at Camp Lejeune learned she had been stalked only after The War Horse sought comment from military officials. But she said she thinks she remembers the man. She spoke on condition of anonymity, nervous about reprisal and becoming more of a target.

“He was standing close enough to smell my perfume,” she said. “This is going to follow me – just like he did.”

The Marines United Facebook page has been around since 2015 and limits membership to male Marines, Navy corpsmen and British Royal Marines. The group has a code of conduct pinned to the top of its page: no discussing Marines United; no threats, harm or harassment; and no racist and illegal posts.

The thousands of images gathered by some group members reveal information about hundreds of female veterans and service members, including social media handles and where they are stationed. These acts violate not only the group’s stated code of conduct, but also Facebook’s terms of use.

The initial link on the page to the image collection read:

“Here you go, you thirsty fecks … this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is more coming.”

Within one minute, commenters began posting:

“Holy feck, there is a god.”

The federal employee – the one who has since been fired – posted a response:

“Anyone can contribute. They just have to (private message) me for their own personal upload link.”

Some Marines promised free beer to contributors. Many tagged friends. One seemed to be tracking the number of photos submitted, writing, “Over 400 more pictures added,” to which he received the response, “Well Done Marine!”

“I know one of these chicks, her name is …” read another of the hundreds of comments. “Check her out boys.”

This distribution of photographs without the women’s consent can threaten their mental health, according to Dr. Frank Ochberg, a psychiatrist, founding board member of the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies and former associate director of the National Institute of Mental Health.

“It impairs the ideal of a brotherhood and sisterhood, being able to count on somebody,” said Ochberg, who pioneered the post-traumatic stress disorder diagnosis in 1980. “Within the military, this is a violation of family. … There are few organizations held to such esteem as the Marine Corps. They stand for honor, courage and commitment.

“This destroys honor. … This is sadistic. … This is disloyalty.”

In recent years, the armed forces have implemented programs and protocols to respond to reports of sexual harassment, assault and equal opportunity violations. But Marine Corps officials confirmed that none include procedures for dealing with sexual exploitation of this nature.

In 2013, U.S. Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., brought a similar problem to the Marines’ attention, an incident noted in the public affairs document sent to generals Friday. In that case, comments denigrating women were posted on a Facebook page. Gen. James Amos, then-commandant of the Marine Corps, responded by citing the difficulties in monitoring and tracking social media to investigate offensive content, as well as inadequate funding.

Speier would have none of it, saying his response was “frankly unacceptable.”

Subsequently, the Marines posted an article defining Marine social media misconduct and mined Facebook, identifying “12 additional Marines allegedly linked to racist, sexist, and/or otherwise inappropriate social media misconduct,” the public affairs document says. “Information about these incidents were provided to unit commanders for appropriate action.”

The Marine Corps and Department of Defense aren’t the only federal agencies battling sexual exploitation.

In 2013, Julia Pierson was the first woman to be appointed as director of the U.S. Secret Service. During her tenure, Pierson faced congressional criticism for a security breach at the White House in 2014, and she worked to improve the agency’s image following a prostitution scandal involving 11 agents.

Pierson told The War Horse that her experiences with civilian law enforcement and the Secret Service have proven that “there’s always a double standard.” These images, she said, “aren’t going away and (next time) they’re going to have an entry fee.

“This is way beyond stupidity and boys being boys,” she said.

The Marines needs to take steps to restore the credibility of their organization, Pierson said.

“They need to realize that this is an entirely new threat,” she said. “This is a coordinated attack on the organization. … This is a hunting club.”

The War Horse submitted multiple requests for additional comment to the defense secretary and commandant of the Marine Corps. Both declined to comment on specifics of the situation, citing the ongoing investigation.

However, in his email, Green added additional perspective, repeatedly denouncing the “demeaning or degrading behavior” of Marines United members and encouraging Marines — and all service members — to be “a voice of change” for the better.

“As Marines, as human beings, you should be angry for the actions of a few,” Green wrote. “Ultimately we must take a look in the mirror and decide whether we are part of the problem or the solution.”

“We need to realize that silence is consent — do not be silent.”



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4 minutes ago, Salty Dog said:

Within the military, this is a violation of family. … There are few organizations held to such esteem as the Marine Corps. They stand for honor, courage and commitment.

OK- at least courage and commitment. 2 out of 3 isnt bad .


Of course it could be considered cowardly to take sneaky pictures of your fellow marines and post them on some website- in which case we would be down to 1 out of 3 .

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Marines' Nude Photo-Sharing Scandal Prompts Calls for Justice

In the wake of the revelation that a large group of active-duty Marines is under investigation for sharing nude photos of female troops without their consent, a senior congressman is calling on the Marine Corps to take swift and decisive action.

Rep. Adam Smith, ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, released a statement Sunday calling the alleged behavior by Marines and Marine Corps veterans "degrading, dangerous, and completely unacceptable."

"I expect that the Marine Corps Commandant, General Neller, will use his resources to fully investigate these acts and bring to justice any individuals who have broken the law and violated the rights of other servicemembers," the Washington Democrat said.

"He must also ensure that the victims are taken care of. The military men and women who proudly volunteer to serve their country should not have to deal with this kind of reprehensible conduct," Smith added.

The investigation was made public Saturday evening by reporter Thomas James Brennan, who reported for Reveal News that members of the private Facebook group Marines United had shared dozens of nude photos of female service members, identifying them by name, rank and duty station. Group members also linked out to a Google Drive folder containing more compromising photos and information, Brennan reported.

A Marine Corps official confirmed an investigation was ongoing, but could not confirm that hundreds of Marines were caught up in it, as Brennan reported. The official referred queries about specifics to Naval Criminal Investigative Service, which did not immediately respond Sunday.

"The Marine Corps is deeply concerned about allegations regarding the derogatory online comments and sharing of salacious photographs in a closed website," Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Ryan Alvis said in a statement provided to Military.com. "This behavior destroys morale, erodes trust, and degrades the individual."

Of allegations are substantiated, active-duty Marines involved in the photo-sharing ring could be charged with violating UCMJ Article 134, general misconduct, for enlisted troops, and Article 133, conduct unbecoming, for officers, Alvis said. If Marines shared a photo taken without the subject's consent and under circumstances for which there was a reasonable expectation of privacy, they may be charged with Article 120, broadcasting or distribution of indecent visual recording, she said.

"A Marine who directly participates in, encourages, or condones such actions could also be subjected to criminal proceedings or adverse administrative actions," Alvis said.

To underscore the significance of the allegations to Marine Corps leadership, both Neller and Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps Ronald Green released statements condemning the alleged behavior.

"I am not going to comment specifically about an ongoing investigation, but I will say this: For anyone to target one of our Marines, online or otherwise, in an inappropriate manner, is distasteful and shows an absence of respect," Neller said in a statement provided to Military.com. "The success of every Marine, every team, every unit and command throughout our Corps is based on mutual trust and respect."

Green went further, releasing a 319-word statement in the form of an open letter calling the online photo-sharing "demeaning" and "degrading" and adding there was no place for it in the Corps.

"We need to be brutally honest with ourselves and each other. This behavior hurts fellow Marines, family members, and civilians. It is a direct attack on our ethos and legacy," he said. "As Marines, as human beings, you should be angry for the actions of a few. These negative behaviors are absolutely contrary to what we represent. It breaks the bond that hold us together; without trust, our family falters."

Messages Brennan shared with Military.com show that some members of the group responded to his report by threatening him and his family and attempting to publish information about where he lived.

"'Amber Alert: Thomas J. Brennan,'" wrote one user, referring to the child abduction emergency system. "500.00 $ for nudes of this guys girl," wrote another.

Brennan is a former infantry Marine and combat veteran.

This is not the first time the bad behavior of Marines online has captured the attention of Congress.

In 2013, the harassment of civilian women and female troops on several so-called "humor" Facebook pages with Marine Corps members prompted Rep. Jackie Speier, a Democrat from California, to call on then defense secretary Chuck Hagel and then-commandant Gen. Jim Amos to intervene.

But in that instance, Marine Corps leadership opted to address the behavior privately, and on a case-by-case basis. No criminal prosecutions of Marines connected to the Facebook pages were ever publicized.

A later 2014 report on similar behavior resulted in investigations into 12 Marines, according to internal public affairs guidance published by Marine Corps Times.

As the first female Marines join infantry units in the wake of a 2015 Pentagon mandate opening all ground combat jobs to women, it's possible service leaders now feel an additional mandate to quell the online exploitation of female service members by their colleagues publicly and decisively.

"Standup, speak out, and be a voice of change for the better. Hold those who misstep accountable," Green said. "We need to realize that silence is consent--do not be silent. It is your duty to protect one another, not just for the Marine Corps, but for humanity."




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Marine Corps' Nude-Photo-Sharing Scandal Worse Than First Realized

The scandal that prompted an investigation into hundreds of Marines who are accused of sharing naked photographs of their colleagues in a private Facebook group is much larger than has been reported, Business Insider has learned.

The practice of sharing such photos goes beyond the Marine Corps and one Facebook group. Hundreds of nude photos of female service members from every military branch have been posted to an image-sharing message board that dates back to at least May. A source informed Business Insider of the site's existence on Tuesday.

The site, called AnonIB, has a dedicated board for military personnel that features dozens of threaded conversations among men, many of whom ask for "wins" -- naked photographs -- of specific female service members, often identifying the women by name or where they are stationed.

The revelation comes on the heels of an explosive story published on Saturday by the journalist Thomas Brennan. He reported on a Facebook group called Marines United, which was home to approximately 30,000 members who were sharing nude photos of colleagues along with personal information and even encouragement of sexual assault.

The report led the Marine Corps to open an investigation, spurred widespread outrage in the media and in Congress, and prompted sharp condemnation from the Corps' top leaders. According to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, investigators are considering felony charges that could carry a maximum penalty of seven years in prison.

An official familiar with the matter told Business Insider that the Marine commandant, Gen. Robert Neller, would brief members of the House Armed Services Committee next week on the scandal.

"We're examining some of our policies to see if we can make them punitive in nature," the official said, adding that the Corps was taking the issue very seriously.

A Facebook-group exodus leads to a message board's popularity
Brennan's story also led to an apparent exodus of members from the private Facebook group, though some appeared to have found the publicly viewable message board soon after -- with the express intent of finding the cache of nude images that Marines in the Facebook group were sharing.

"Come on Marines share the wealth here before that site is nuked and all is lost," one anonymous user said in a post on Monday, two days after Brennan's story was published. Follow-up replies offered a link to a Dropbox folder named "Girls of MU" with thousands of photographs.

Dropbox did not respond to a request for comment.

Members on the board often posted photos -- seemingly stolen from female service members' Instagram accounts -- before asking others if they had nude pictures of a female service member.

For example, after posting the first name and photograph of a female soldier in uniform on January 21, one board member asked for "Army chick went to [redacted], ig is [redacted]." Another user, apparently frustrated that no pictures had yet been found, posted a few days later: "BUMP. Let's see them t------."

On another thread, a member posted a photograph on May 30 of a female service member with her breasts exposed and said, "She is in the navy down in san diego, anyone have any more wins?"

One user followed up on June 13, offering another nude photo of the woman.

"Keep them coming! She's got them floating around someone [sic] and I've wanted to see this for a while," another user wrote in response.

Some requested nude photographs by unit or location.

One user asked in September for photos of women in the Massachusetts National Guard, while another requested some from the Guard in Michigan. Other requests included nude pictures of any women stationed at Fort Hood in Texas, Fort Bragg in North Carolina, McConnell Air Force Base in Kansas, or Naval Medical Center in San Diego, along with many more US military installations around the world.

In statements to Business Insider, military branches denounced the message board and promised discipline for any service members who engaged in misconduct.

"This alleged behavior is inconsistent with our values," Lt. Col. Myles Caggins, a spokesman for the Department of Defense, told Business Insider.

Capt. Ryan Alvis, a spokeswoman for the Marine Corps, told Business Insider that the service expects the discovery of the Marines United page will motivate others to come forward to report other pages like it.

"Marines will attack this problem head-on and continue to get better," Alvis said.

Lt. Col. Jennifer Johnson, a spokeswoman for the Army, told Business Insider: "The Army is a values-based organization where everyone is expected to be treated with dignity and respect. As members of the Army team, individuals' interaction offline and online reflect on the Army and its values. Soldiers or civilian employees who participate in or condone misconduct, whether offline or online, may be subject to criminal, disciplinary, and/or administrative action."

Air Force spokesman Zachary Anderson told Business Insider: "We expect our Airmen to adhere to these values at all times and to treat their fellow service members with the highest degree of dignity and respect. Any conduct or participation in activities, whether online or offline, that does not adhere to these principles will not be tolerated. Airmen or civilian employees who engage in activities of misconduct that demean or disrespect fellow service members will be appropriately disciplined."

The Navy did not respond to a request for comment.

'Hope we can find more on this gem'
The image board hosts disturbing conversations that in many cases appear to be between active-duty personnel.

"Any wins of [redacted]?" read one request, which shared further details about a female Marine's whereabouts, indicating the user likely worked with her in the past.

Another thread, posted in November, that had dozens of follow-up comments from users acting as cyber-sleuths to track down the victim started with a single photograph of a female Marine, fully clothed, taken from her Instagram account.

"Any wins?" that user asked, telling others the Marine's first name and where she had been stationed.

One user hinted at her last name as others scoured her Instagram account, posting more photos they had found. One photo of the victim and her friend prompted one user to ask for nude photos of the friend as well: "Any of the dark haired girl in the green shirt and jeans next to her?"

The thread carried on for months.

"Amazing thread," one user wrote. "Hope we can find more on this gem."

In December, a nude photo was finally posted. "Dudeee more," one user wrote in response. Many others responded by "bumping" the thread to the top so that others on the board would see it and potentially post more photos. Indeed, more photos soon appeared from the victim's Instagram account, which was apparently made private or shut down numerous times.

On the board, users complained that her Instagram account kept disappearing, apparently because she was trying to thwart her harassers. But others quickly found her new accounts and told others, and the new Instagram account names were shared throughout February.

"Oh god please someone have that p----," one user wrote.

The site that hosts the message board seems to have little moderation and few rules, though it tells users "Don't be evil." Its rules instruct members to not post personal details such as addresses, telephone numbers, links to social networks, or last names.

Still, many users on the board do not appear to follow those rules.

In one popular thread, started on January 9, an anonymous user posted non-nude pictures of a female airman, telling others in the caption: "Anyone know her or have anything else on her? I've got a lot more if there is interest. Would love for her friends and family to see these."

The user, who suggested in the accompanying captions that he was a jilted ex-boyfriend, posted many more photos in the hours and days after.

"She knows how to end it all. If she does get in contact with me I won't post anymore. So get it while it's hot!" he wrote.

Later in the thread, the man even referred to the airman by name and told her to check her Instagram messages.

"Wow, she blocked me on Instagram!" he later wrote. "Stupid c--- must want me to post her s--- up. I gave her a choice, it didn't have to be this way. I'm not a bad guy, she had a choice. Oh well, no point in holding back now. I want you all to share this everywhere you can, once I start seeing her more places I'll post her video."

Aside from those on active duty, some users who identified themselves as cadets at some military service academies started threads to try to find nude photos of their female classmates.

In a thread dedicated to the US Military Academy at West Point, some users who appeared to be cadets shared photos and graduation years of their female classmates.

"What about the basketball locker room pics, I know someone has those," one user said, apparently referring to photos taken surreptitiously in a women's locker room. "I always wondered whether those made it out of the academy computer system," another user responded.

In 2012, an Army sergeant who helped train and mentor cadets was discovered to have secretly filmed more than a dozen women in the bathroom and shower areas at West Point. The soldier pleaded guilty in the case and was sentenced in 2014 to 33 months in prison.

"Bumping all 3 service academies' threads to see who can post the best wins in the next 7 days. Winning school gets the [commander's cup]," one user wrote. "Go Army, Beat Everyone."

Lt. Col. Christopher Kasker, a spokesman for the US Military Academy, told Business Insider: "The content on this image board or other websites, attributed to both West Point graduates and our fellow service members, is both alarming and contrary to our values. When alerted to incidents such as this, we thoroughly investigate and take appropriate action."

'This has to be treated harshly'
The existence of a site dedicated solely to sharing nude photographs of female service members is another black mark for the Pentagon, which has been criticized in the past for failing to deal with rampant sexual harassment and abuse within the ranks.

A 2014 Rand Corporation study estimated that more than 20,000 service members had been sexually assaulted in the previous year. Nearly six times as many reported being sexually harassed. In some cases, the military has pushed out victims of sexual assault who reported it, instead of the perpetrators.

"I'm kind of surprised. I'm still naive, I think, on some level," said Kate Hendricks Thomas, a former Marine Corps officer who is now an assistant professor at Charleston Southern University. "I am really disappointed to hear that the reach is broader than 30,000 and a couple of now-defunct websites."

Thomas criticized past responses to the problem, in which some had indicated the issue was too difficult for the military to wrap its arms around.

"This renders us less mission-effective. It's got to be a priority," she said.

"These websites are not boys being boys," she added. "This is a symptom of rape culture."

The message board also presents a challenge for military leaders, who may face an uphill battle in trying to find -- and potentially prosecute -- active-duty service members who shared photos on the site. Unlike the Marines United Facebook group, where many users posted under their real names, the message board's user base is mostly anonymous, and the site itself is registered in the Bahamas, outside the jurisdiction of US law enforcement.

Brad Moss, a lawyer who specializes in national-security issues, told Business Insider that the military may have a hard time persuading the internet service provider to shut down the website. Instead, he said, the victims themselves may have more legal standing if they were to contact the ISP to remove the photos.

Still, Moss said he believes the military could squash the behavior if it adopted a "zero-tolerance" posture.

"I think that absolutely, 100%, should be the policy if they catch the main perpetrators who are sharing these photos around and essentially engaging in revenge p*orn," Moss said. "They should have a zero-tolerance policy and boot them from the military with a dishonorable discharge.

"If they do anything less, it's only going to incentivize this behavior in the future," he added. "This has to be treated harshly."




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It did not really happen if there is no link to all those horrible photos. :wink: 

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Ex-service member denounces trove of 'indecent photos' of military women circulating among Marines


A Marine veteran whose image was posted on the raunchy, invitation-only Marines United Facebook page without her consent said she’s “disgusted” by the photo-swapping scandal and wants an in-person meeting with top brass.

The 23-year-old former radio operator also warned others on Wednesday not to fall in line with the excuse that “boys will be boys.”

“It is an excuse to justify the perpetrator’s behavior and normalizes aggression toward women,” veteran Erika Butner said.

Butner was stationed in Cherry Point, N.C., and spent time in Jordan, Oman and Israel during her four years on active duty.

She said it was last August that she first learned her photo was shared on Marines United without her knowledge, prompting at least one of the group’s 30,000 members to ask if anyone could share a followup snap showing her naked.


She later became aware of a secret share drive connected to the group that contained “indecent photos” of women from all military services that was organized by name, rank and where the women were stationed, she said.

“As a Marine Corps veteran, I am disheartened and disgusted by this scandal,” Butner said Wednesday at a press conference with her lawyer, Gloria Allred.

“As a rape survivor, I can tell you that this exact behavior leads to the normalization of sexual harassment and even sexual violence,” she said.

Butner and Allred called for a face-to-face meeting with the Marine commandant, Gen. Robert Neller, after he released a video on Tuesday urging victims to report their abuse.


“When I hear allegations of Marine denigration by fellow Marines, I don’t think such behavior is that of true warriors,” Neller said in the recorded message.

“I know myself and many other victims would appreciate meeting with the commandant in person to discuss how we can promote more respect for each other and to make our suggestions for change,” Butner said.

She helped blow the whistle on the group’s stunning share drive when she reported it to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in January, she said.

A nonprofit news organization called The War Horse caught wind of the illicit online sharing and published a report on Revealnews.org on Saturday.


The Marine Corps confirmed an investigation by Sunday.

Officials even issued the warning that anyone who “directly participates in, encourages or condones” the illegal activity related to the group could face court martial.

Active-duty Marine Marisa Woytek also appeared with Butner and Allred on Wednesday but gave only a written statement. A lance corporal serving at Camp Pendleton, she previously told The Washington Post she would not reenlist due to the scandal.

“I am one of the women Marines whose photos were posted on the Internet on Marines United and on other sites without my knowledge or consent,” Woytek said in her statement Wednesday.


“Although my photos showed me fully clothed and appropriately dressed, comments were posted by some individuals who viewed my photos, and comments were made regarding sexual violence.”

She thanked Neller for his statement Tuesday and the support he voiced for victims.

“His statement was very important and a sign that the Marine Corps is serious about making sure that all Marines, including women, will be afforded the respect which we all deserve,” Woytek said.

Allred said Wednesday that she sent a letter to Neller asking him to meet with her, Butner, Woytek and possibly others.

“We would like to discuss with him our suggestions for promoting more respect for women who are U.S. Marines,” Allred said.

The attorney said Marines United members posted “obscene” comments and threatened violence.

“Some posters suggested sexually assaulting women Marines or rape,” Allred said. “This is vile. This is dangerous and this is dishonorable conduct by those who have called these women the usual disgusting names,” she said. “This is a stain on their own conduct.” 



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Once again, the world is laughing at the United States. The US military's Esprit De Corp will take a worldwide hit.

It is a double whammy for those of us who served honorably. (US Navy, 1964-68)

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This is today's mondern day hog board.  The problem is the PC world gets a hold of these things and we have a crisis.  Are there remarks and photos which are concerning, yes and deal with those.  I get a feeling this will turn into a witch hunt.  

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2 hours ago, USMC-Retired said:

This is today's mondern day hog board.  The problem is the PC world gets a hold of these things and we have a crisis.  Are there remarks and photos which are concerning, yes and deal with those.  I get a feeling this will turn into a witch hunt.  

It looks like it's already happening.



Lawmaker to Introduce Bill Criminalizing Military 'Revenge p*orn'


A California lawmaker plans to announce legislation tomorrow that would make it a crime for service members to share nude photos and other intimate images without consent, her office announced Wednesday.

Rep. Jackie Speier, a Democrat, will introduce the bill Thursday in a Capitol Hill press conference, joined by high-profile women's rights attorney Gloria Allred and Marine veteran Erika Butner, a self-identified victim of nonconsensual photo sharing.

The move comes after the Marine Corps was rocked earlier this month by revelations that active-duty Marines were implicated in a Facebook page, Marines United, that circulated a link to a folder of nude and compromising images of female service members.

Naval Criminal Investigative Service is investigating the page, which has since been shut down, and Marine Corps officials have said that those found guilty of participation in the illicit activities face prosecution under general misconduct orders and an order forbidding "indecent broadcasting" of images.

But in a hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, lawmakers queried Commandant Gen. Robert Neller on whether the current statutes within the Uniform Code of Military Justice were enough to deal satisfactorily with the alleged crimes.

"That's something we're going to get into with this task force, if there are provisions within UCMJ that may need to be more specific about this particular type of potential offense," Neller told Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat from Connecticut, referring to a task force the Marine Corps organized this month to determine next steps in the wake of the scandal.

Asked by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat from Massachusetts, if a code specifically addressing "revenge p*orn" was called for, Neller said it might be, though it wouldn't address the whole problem.

"I think that would be helpful in the accountability process," he said. "But again, some of these pictures of these women, they were fully clothed, and it's the commentary."

Speier's bill, the Servicemembers Intimate Privacy Protection Act, or SIPPA, would prohibit service members from sharing intimate images without the consent of the individual or individuals depicted, according to a release from her office. She plans to introduce the bill following a closed-door briefing on the Marines United fallout and investigation.

Erika Butner, the 23-year-old Marine veteran who will be appearing alongside Speier, went public in a March 8 press conference with Allred to self-identify as a victim of the Marines United page.

"I can tell you that this exact behavior leads to the normalization of sexual harassment and even sexual violence," she said, according to a Reuters report.

Speier has been a longtime advocate for female service members and civilians targeted my unofficial Marine Corps Facebook pages like Marines United. In 2013, she wrote a letter to then-Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Jim Amos demanding that he take action to stop the online targeting, objectification and harassment of women.

"The military cannot eradicate this problem without fundamentally changing its approach, including its tolerance of participation in these kinds of websites," she wrote at the time.




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Oh my, some CA politician is going to criminalize "military revenge p*orn"  it is a crime you idiot, someone just shoot CA and put them out of their misery. 75% of Kalifornians make the rest look bad!

After exhaustive web searches I could only find pic's of men,  I won't bother posting a link.

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9 minutes ago, Jester said:

After exhaustive web searches I could only find pic's of men,  I won't bother posting a link.

So I wasn't the only one searching for the photos...;)

Well until I saw her picture and how some Marine wanted to see nude photos of her...:sick:


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^^^I didnt know Marilyn Manson had a daughter. You learn something everyday.

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7 hours ago, chaminade1964 said:

Once again, the world is laughing at the United States. The US military's Esprit De Corp will take a worldwide hit.

It is a double whammy for those of us who served honorably. (US Navy, 1964-68)

Oh please, Same shit happens world wide it is just that the US makes a big deal out of it

Google female Israeli soldiers 

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Why would posting nude photos affect their military work in any negative way?

If everyone post nude photos, it'd be okay.

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I have one piece of advise for these women..........if you do not want your naked pictures passed around don't pose for them in the first place. Stupid is as stupid does. 

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