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JamesMusslewhite

Before some joker links the Embassy as if that is helpful, let me say I read it, have it bookmarked and it is a bit vague on what I want to do. This is why I am doing this OP...

OK here are the facts.

Just had VISA renewed yesterday and they informed me my passport expires April 17th, so instead of the usual 2 months extension they were only able to extend for one month. My wife's US passport has expired, but only 10 months which is well within the 5 years mentioned on the site. So it should be easy to get both of our passports renewed. 

I really do not want to have to travel all the way up to Manila when Cebu is much easier. Surigao City was hit by an earthquake and the airfield is out, do not care to sit on a boat 3-1/2 days up and 3-1/2 back. Don't really care to have to do the overnight ferry and hassle with flying to and from from Cebu. So Here are the questions

If I print out the required form and bring it to the Cebu Waterfront branch and make the cash payment there. (I bank at neither bank mentioned on the website) and get a receipt for the payment. Can I also hand my passports over in Cebu, or will I still have to contact Manila and do the Air21-dance with them? And is there a way to have the new passports sent to the Cebu Waterfront branch if all together possible?

I really do not care if it take a little longer going through the Cebu branch that way as I have already talked with the Surigao City BI office so if my VISA expires I can simply pay the fine and then request the 2-month extension once I get the new passport.

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Jawny

The Cebu consulate will accept passport renewals in person, cash payment.  They will add the cost of the Air 21 delivery to you.  Price for Air21 is just a couple hundred pesos or so.  Have a delivery address and contact t phone number available (your phone will be surrendered at security when entering). 

Form is easy to fill in online and print for them.  

Be sure you have photos meeting their criteria as described online.

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Salty Dog

Did mine all through the mail. Even payment. I mailed my application to Manila, no fee is to be sent with application. They sent me an email that my application had been accepted and gave me options to make payment which at that time were all required to be made in person, but not nessarrily by me. I had expat services in Cebu make my payment for me for just a few hundred peso. I just sent his fee and passport fee via LBC. The 1st time he showed up at the Cebu Consulate even though he had a printout of the email from Manila, they wouldn't accept payment. They wanted a letter from me. So I emailed a letter and they accepted it. I think I still have letter if you want a copy. Manila would accept credit card payment, but at least a few years ago, they wouldn't accept it over the phone or via email. They wanted to have it done in person.

 

 

 

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JamesMusslewhite

Looks like my wife and I will be traveling up to Cebu sometime in the next two weeks and submit the paperwork and the payments at the Waterfront branch. Thank you for all the responses as it was quite helpful. It will be nice not have to hassle with the inconvenience of traveling all the way up to Manila just to do what can be done in Cebu.  

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JamesMusslewhite

Well I returned this morning from Cebu where my wife and myself went to the Waterfront US Embassy branch to both renew our passports (my wife’s expired just over one year ago, and mine was only good until the 17th of next month). So here an update on the experience.

We left early Friday morning and were 6th in line when we arrived. Once inside the whole process was rather pleasant and hassle-free. We only required to each present our passports, the two page document (which I had printed from the Embassy website), 2”x2” photo and what helped make so convenient was the ability to simply pay in Philippine Peso. Total time was perhaps 30 minutes. Efficient.

 

Let me add that we were informed that the delivery of the new passports, by mail, was expected within 5 weeks. We were both handed back our old passports in case members wondered. So when you make the first BI visa renewal using the new passport you will also have the older passport which has your entry stamp and you last VISA stamp.

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Jawny

Thanks for the update. My experience recently was similar. However, the delivery was by courier, which I paid for.  It was about a month later. Also, I paid in dollars and had the impression I was required to use dollars. No matter.

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JamesMusslewhite
11 minutes ago, Jawny said:

Thanks for the update. My experience recently was similar. However, the delivery was by courier, which I paid for.  It was about a month later. Also, I paid in dollars and had the impression I was required to use dollars. No matter.

They happily accepted my payment in peso but they wanted correct change. :biggrin_01:

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SkyMan
2 hours ago, JamesMusslewhite said:

They happily accepted my payment in peso but they wanted correct change. :biggrin_01:

They also accept CC and then no bother with exact change.  I have no idea why the DoS can't accept CC payment via secure site after the app is accepted.  I'm sure most people would just do that even if a small fee was added.

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JamesMusslewhite

Well as promised I am updating the thread. We went to the Cebu branch of the US embassy and paid for the passport renewals for both my wife and I on the 25th of March and yesterday April 20th Air21 called to inform us the package had arrived here in Surigao City. My wife happened to be in town conducting business so she dropped into their office and picked the passports up. There was an additional fee of 120p for each passport (240p total) at the point of pickup and the processing and delivery of the two passports took less than 5 weeks. Simple and easy and I did not have to deal with the hassle of dealing with Manila.

Service rates 2-thumbs :thumbs_up:

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Jawny

So, did you pay the express lane fee?

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JamesMusslewhite
On 21/04/2017 at 11:06 AM, Jawny said:

So, did you pay the express lane fee?

I do not remember there being an additional express lane fee being charged at the Cebu branch of the US Embassy.

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RogerDat

I just did mine, and there is no express line fee.  They had me fill out the air 21 slip, and said it is cod, so did not collect any peso's. They do not accept debit cards. The woman were friendly! (American, and pretty)

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JamesMusslewhite
On 28/05/2017 at 5:34 PM, RogerDat said:

I just did mine, and there is no express line fee.  They had me fill out the air 21 slip, and said it is cod, so did not collect any peso's. They do not accept debit cards. The woman were friendly! (American, and pretty)

It is nice not having to travel up to Manila. Though there is an issue with the last Visa entry stamp being in the old passport. I have heard most BI office want expats to take both old and new passport to the main BI office in Manila to renew the Visa and there have them re-stamp a new entry stamp.in the new passport. I was luck because the local BI office here in Surigao City is so small and I have been here so long that the BI offer renewed my passport allowing me not to have to travel up to Manila. Of course I was also 6 weeks 'over-stay' status as my new passport was being processed. Others may encounter this issue a passport renewal. Or not. :biggrin_01: .

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RogerDat

James, are you saying that they charged you as an overstay because new passport was not yet stamped?( Of course I was also 6 weeks 'over-stay' status as my new passport was being processed. Others may encounter this issue a passport renewal. )

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SkyMan

I'm not sure how you can overstay for renewing your passport. Extend then renew, passport back in plenty of time.  It's not like you don't see it coming.  

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Paul
2 hours ago, SkyMan said:

I'm not sure how you can overstay for renewing your passport. Extend then renew, passport back in plenty of time.  It's not like you don't see it coming.  

Simple. You cannot renew your visa if your passport is valid for six months, or less - typically, anyway. So, you can end up being an overstaying alien, while your passport application is being processed. The Immigration office of any country you are in, will just look at it as though you had plenty of time to renew your passport, prior to your visa needing to be renewed. 

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A_Simple_Man
6 minutes ago, Paul said:

you had plenty of time to renew your passport, prior to your visa needing to be renewed. 

Not sure about US but when I renewed in Canada I renewed when there was still a year of validity on the old passport.  No questions asked.  Reason was I knew I was coming back here and the old passport would have expired while out of country.  So renew early and avoid hassles.

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Paul
1 minute ago, A_Simple_Man said:

Not sure about US but when I renewed in Canada I renewed when there was still a year of validity on the old passport.  No questions asked.  Reason was I knew I was coming back here and the old passport would have expired while out of country.  So renew early and avoid hassles.

I should've done the same thing, when I was in the US. Would have saved me money, time, and an unnecessary trip to Phnom Penh.

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Davaoeno
4 minutes ago, A_Simple_Man said:

Not sure about US but when I renewed in Canada I renewed when there was still a year of validity on the old passport.  No questions asked.  Reason was I knew I was coming back here and the old passport would have expired while out of country.  So renew early and avoid hassles.

I renewed in Vancouver last year. The old passport had 14 months on it. I had to give them a letter telling them why and produce my plane ticket out of Canada to verify my story

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RogerDat

Is James on a tourist visa?

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Woolf
2 minutes ago, RogerDat said:

Is James on a tourist visa?

YES

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Woolf
43 minutes ago, Paul said:

Simple. You cannot renew your visa if your passport is valid for six months, or less - typically, anyway. So, you can end up being an overstaying alien, while your passport application is being processed. The Immigration office of any country you are in, will just look at it as though you had plenty of time to renew your passport, prior to your visa needing to be renewed. 

Looks like that changed in 2015, maybe?

http://www.immigration.gov.ph/faqs/travel-req

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10. Who are exempt from the “six-month passport validity” rule?

 

  1. Philippine passport holders;
  2. Former Filipinos and their dependents (immediate family members);
  3. Permanent residents and holders of other special visa categories requiring temporary residents (with valid ACR I-Cards);
  4. Passports of recognized foreign-government officials;
  5. Visa under CA 613, Sec. 9, except Sec.  9(a), and 47(a)(2)  where visa validity extends beyond passport expiration date, provided, an embassy or consulate is maintained in the Philippines;
  6. Those admitted by the Commissioner on humanitarian grounds; and
  7. Pursuant to Operations Order No. SBM-2015-026, nationals of the following countries may be admitted into the Philippines with passports of less than six (6) months validity from date of arrival:

 

a list of countries followed

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JamesMusslewhite
1 minute ago, Woolf said:

YES

Wolf your correct.I was originally Baiikbayan.status, but four years ago I was asked by the Maldives Speaker of Parliament to consult on the feasibility of a potential location for a commercial floriculture facility and survey three lagoons to determine if they were good locations for a large aquaculture project to raise grouper and lobster. I was also contracted to design a large floating net 'grow-out' platform. I had meant to meet up with the wife in KL on the return flight so we could re-enter together and get BB stamped again. I was asked to stay an additional week which would overlap our son's High School graduation. So we decided the wife stays to be with the son and I returned solo which meant a Tourist stamp. Seems were are just too busy for us both to just drop everything and take the round-trip together to get BB stamped. Plus my wife's US passport had expired a couple of years back. We now have both passports renewed and plan on traveling to either KL or Guam later this year together and will just BB stamp when we return.       .

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SkyMan
36 minutes ago, JamesMusslewhite said:

Wolf your correct.I was originally Baiikbayan.status, but four years ago I was asked by the Maldives Speaker of Parliament to consult on the feasibility of a potential location for a commercial floriculture facility and survey three lagoons to determine if they were good locations for a large aquaculture project to raise grouper and lobster. I was also contracted to design a large floating net 'grow-out' platform. I had meant to meet up with the wife in KL on the return flight so we could re-enter together and get BB stamped again. I was asked to stay an additional week which would overlap our son's High School graduation. So we decided the wife stays to be with the son and I returned solo which meant a Tourist stamp. Seems were are just too busy for us both to just drop everything and take the round-trip together to get BB stamped. Plus my wife's US passport had expired a couple of years back. We now have both passports renewed and plan on traveling to either KL or Guam later this year together and will just BB stamp when we return.       .

But then you'd still have to travel or start renewing again after a year.  Why not do the trip to Guam and get a 13A?  Or do you plan on lots of travel which might make the 13A more expensive?

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