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Need a reliable plumber to fix watertank/pump installation

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Dafey
1 hour ago, Enuff said:

We put in a 1500L tank, 3/4 hp pump & 21L pressure tank (total cost for everything less than p30k).

MCWD runs whenever ball valve drops and pressure will take the skin right off your weiner.

We are now good for 2 days without MCWD if there is a brownout, worth every peso.

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I've been there and it's amazing how much beer that pressurized tank puts out!

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colemanlee
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Im amazed, all the years Ive live here, in several different houses...through Yolanda, through numerous water outages, power outages....I never needed the Presidents number, or even the advice of a barangay captain...guess Im just lucky or maybe Im not like Forrest

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Goetz1965
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All I learned from this problems :
1) whenever I biuild a house here I will make sure all the piping is exposed and not covered in any way !
2) Don't buy a house from MD Dreambuilders Cebu - their contractors build cheap sh** ! with cheap materials - and they only give you 1 year warranty ... LOL

Last nicht MCWD didnt delivever water so this morning the tank was empty and we couldnt go on looking whats wrong. Now the guys will come back this night at 8pm and hopefully water from MCWD is running too ...

 

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lopburi3
1 minute ago, Goetz1965 said:

All I learned from this problems :
1) whenever I biuild a house here I will make sure all the piping is exposed and not covered in any way !

Probably a good idea as makes troubleshooting much easier - but be sure to buy good quality material if exposed to sun.  I have a 40 year old home and have indeed changed to external water lines just about everywhere.  This is especially important when using higher pressure pumps as often joints are not joined well - even in new construction.  Holders like this make it very easy and you can paint pipe to match walls.

Image result for pvc pipe wall holder

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Davaoeno
1 hour ago, lopburi3 said:

I have a 40 year old home and have indeed changed to external water lines just about everywhere.

Is that the common way in Thailand ?  How do Thai water lines differ  ? Do you recommend importing water lines from Thailand ?  How much do they cost in Thailand ?  

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lopburi3
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In the event anyone really wants to know external lines are not common but many expats have changed to using them as use higher pressure pumps, such a Grundfos, and need easy access.    My response was for Goetz who says is going to go external pipes.  Obviously you work with what you have.

 

 

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HongKongPhooey
11 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

but be sure to buy good quality material if exposed to sun. 

Do you use any external coating other than  regular paint since the sun exposure would make the plastic pipes brittle in short time?

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musicman666
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That’s what I did with my old house ..i condemned the whole system and put in surface pipes everywhere Hong Kong style...what prompted me to do this was an underground leak below the slab that in one month racked up a massive bill...anyone who buries their pipes in soil or concrete is just asking for trouble. 

I used metal ...if it leaks the great thing about surface mount  is that you can see it and repair it easily before it becomes an issue. 

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lopburi3
15 hours ago, HongKongPhooey said:

Do you use any external coating other than  regular paint since the sun exposure would make the plastic pipes brittle in short time?

I just used thick blue PVC pipe outside - most is not in sun nobody seems to have a problem with what we have here in Thailand.  You might want to ask what is best there however.  It does make for some hot water however - until what is in sun pipe has been used.

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Headshot
8 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

I just used thick blue PVC pipe outside - most is not in sun nobody seems to have a problem with what we have here in Thailand.  You might want to ask what is best there however.  It does make for some hot water however - until what is in sun pipe has been used.

PPR is much better than PVC. Once the connections are heat-welded, you never have to worry about them again, so no more leaks. PVC gets brittle under UV (outside), whereas PPR does not, so no more broken pipes. With PPR, you need to either find a plumber who has a PPR welder, or you need to buy one yourself. They are fairly cheap in the big scheme of things, and if you no longer need it after the job is done, it can be sold. However, I kept mine because I may change my plumbing sometime in the future. I also suggest that you bump the pipe size up one more than most use (as in use 1" rather than 3/4" for house runs). The added size gives you more flow, which equates to more water at the fixtures.

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Goetz1965

Heres the FINAL update then on the problem and the solution !

The last plumbers I told you (MCWD accredited) did some work but didn't FIX the problem. After 3 days coming and working and fixing the piping they then only told to have a job in the province but come back next week - but that never happened also.

Learning from that: If the guys you get seem not to know whats going on - or dont get to the point of the problem fast - don't mess around with them any longer !

After that I decided to drive to the next nearest Hardware Store - and that was my lucky day.
I went to Cebu Home Builders in Banilad - went to the plumbing section and asked for someone to help me.
The workers pointed me to the forworker there - and this guy really knows what hes doing - but this time for sure. He came out with his helper after work, and directly saw that a check valve is missing and the pump wasnt properly connected to the tank. That was done the next day - materials for PPR piping, valves and all was 5K and work was 3.5K - only after that the pump still was running continuously. So next we changed the pump and the new pump now behaves like it should - switching off when the pressure is reached.
After that we could start find the leaks in the piping - yesterday his helper started the work and today he will finish it. And if theres no "still hidden" leak this f*** is over after 3 weeks and 5 bugo plumbers.

If you like the info on my plumbing guy pls send me a pm - im not telling this public here.
 

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Davaoeno
27 minutes ago, Goetz1965 said:

im not telling this public here.

I have to say i find that a bit funny !!

You went to a store and although they didnt know you they went out of their way to assist you with your problem. And they solved your problem . 

But you don't want to help  any of us here  [ or help  that same guy get more work ]  by letting people  here know  who to contact ??

[ maybe I am not understanding why you said that ?? ] 

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HongKongPhooey

Good post from start to finish. 

13 hours ago, Davaoeno said:

But you don't want to help  any of us here  [ or help  that same guy get more work ]  by letting people  here know  who to contact ??

I found it very helpful and not sure why you would bust his chops for not posting his contact’s personal information on a public forum. He gave the basic information on how to find the guy or an offer to help privately.

14 hours ago, Goetz1965 said:

I went to Cebu Home Builders in Banilad - went to the plumbing section and asked for someone to help me.
The workers pointed me to the forworker there

 

14 hours ago, Goetz1965 said:

If you like the info on my plumbing guy pls send me a pm
 

Just saying...

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Davaoeno

Oops! I forgot he's the CIA's on call plumber 😆

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shadow
47 minutes ago, Davaoeno said:

Oops! I forgot he's the CIA's on call plumber 😆

Surely you meant the plumber of the President!

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