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On 9/15/2017 at 1:23 PM, bcchance said:

 

Short version - eating WAY less, no bread, and a lot of salad. 

Longer version - I left here last year weighing at around 270 pounds. That was November...plan was holidays with the US family (I alternate each year) and 3 months. I joined the gym while out there, and began taking mass gainers as I began getting stronger and larger with machines and nothing on the back fusions (chicken legs)...yes, I used to be into that crap as a youngster. The milk and calories was doing it's job, tried to increase my aerobics to help the heart. I also went to all my doctors when I arrived, and all tests were my usual, in range (borderline high norm hemoglobin and liver enzymes)...except my testosterone, as I was complaining about less interest in sex. That was very low. I was then sent to a urologist as he was an expert in that field. Again, the bloodwork he redid, as if it was going to change in a week, was the same, although they did far more extensive. He put me on 1/2 cc test 2 x week inject...asked if I wanted to try the clomid instead...I have had 4 eye surgeries, and a worst case sore eye ever...scarred my corneas, and was stuck in a unlit room for 3 weeks, visit once to davao doc, thus wanted no part of clomid, which like viagra, can cause eye issues. 

Move ahead past the 3 months, blood test came back as I gained weight vs told to lose and my family doctor told me stroke, liver problems, heart problems and all sorts of things. Told me the testosterone can raise your already high hemoglobin (blood thickens) and need to either get to hospital, or dump blood. Iron was also way high, as was my blood pressure 180/120 while on medication. That's when I went cold turkey....from eating near 2000 calories a meal, with mass protein shakes and snacks galore (6 bagels a morning anyone)...plus 6 eggs, bacon...I would eat 6 slices of pizza, and still be hungry. From that I went almost no protein. Oatmeal breakfast, no coffee, water....then 2 egg whites and low iron wheat. Lunch was a thin peanut butter sandwich, apple water...3 pm had more cereal, very small amount, low iron...dinner was a ceasar chicken salad, croutons never tasted so good. No snacks, LOT of water. Dropped 30 pounds in 2 months....the last 30 was slower, but consistent. From 300 to 240, and a week ago I was 236. I then went to 242...easier here, but once I hit the city and stay, it's hard to find healthy options. 

Blood pressure now 110/60-70...no meds. Hemoglobin 14-16, donate 500 ml's when it gets to 16...liver enzymes from the high 80's ALT AST to in the 20's...that was usually 30-44. I can see a six pack....can move better, limits cause my spinal fusions of course, but even the back has less pain. 

Key is being boring with food, eating for function vs pleasure. In the USA, I can eat for function and still enjoy food more then here, but the fiancee is a great cook...western foods. Simply has that ability....oh, and I only eat skinned chicken breasts....occasionally eating the roasters s $ r sell...fruits here, love the chinese pears. 

 

Basically same  method - 103 Kg down to 76 Kg now - at 5'8" - was waaay too much - 44" waist - now 33/ 34

Started too late (68) for excess skin to completely disappear which is a fecking pain. Chicken wings, waddles, & spare tire

Now ABS & arm exercises & walk 1 hour  5 x week - can make it from Windland to Carbon and back in less than 1 1/2 hour

Have a pulse watch - would hit 150 BPM (max rate for age 70) at top of one very steep hill when started - now around 120 which is where it should be

Gave up eating 1/2 Kg of jelly beans while driving to next customer, 1 L of deer with dinner twice a week, chips and salsa as a nightly snack.

Now I eat whatever she makes and lots of rice. Very little beef - we eat pork, chicken, fish instead.

Although 2 L of coffee every morning

Only problem is not eating has become a habit same as eating wrong foods was. When Charity is not here not unusual for me to eat once ever 24 hours if that. She gets upset when I say not hungry.

Air popped popcorn is our snack of choice

 

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Flakes

So back to the OP his question can we buy  at a Pharmacy or a hospital here even with a precription Andro gel ?

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DeedleNuts

I used to give it away for free in Subic for a while but maybe that's not the 'gel' you're looking for. 

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smokey
4 hours ago, DeedleNuts said:

I used to give it away for free in Subic for a while but maybe that's not the 'gel' you're looking for. 

I have some i was able.to get from another member but very limated supply called androForte. 5 seems to work 4 me in engery but where to find here

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nothingbutquestions

If you can find any injectaible Testosterone (pure) or any ester (propionate preferred) you can make your own "gel" using PURE DMSO and mix to the desired strength. I bought the DMSO from Amazon. 

If you can find the T without a RX, please let me know  - PM. There are some internists who will work with you and give a RX, but I do not know what the pharmacies can order.

Calcium D-glucarate is your best friend to sleep through the night and have a healthy urine stream in the morning.

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Flakes
7 minutes ago, nothingbutquestions said:

If you can find any injectaible Testosterone (pure) or any ester (propionate preferred) you can make your own "gel" using PURE DMSO and mix to the desired strength. I bought the DMSO from Amazon. 

If you can find the T without a RX, please let me know  - PM. There are some internists who will work with you and give a RX, but I do not know what the pharmacies can order.

Calcium D-glucarate is your best friend to sleep through the night and have a healthy urine stream in the morning.

That sounds very complicated we not studied medicines.

Those injections are mixed with oil always while those creams aren’t.. I think creams are a better way to boost T levels they also more expensive but why they not here?

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nothingbutquestions

It boils down to a matter of desire. How important it is to you. Raising T levels is vital to good health.

Clomid is the easiest. I've used it for years. 

Injectable T - if you can handle the needles and twice weekly injections.

The recipes for the DMSO mix are online. If you can mix a drink, you could do this, if you wanted. You are using drops applied to the skin and the mix you make from one vial of T will last you a year or more.

 

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Irenicus
18 minutes ago, nothingbutquestions said:

Clomid is the easiest. I've used it for years. 

Injectable T - if you can handle the needles and twice weekly injections.

I experimented with the Clomid as well a few years back.  Before Clomid was at 420.  After three months of 25 mg (half a pill) Monday-Wed-Friday was at 840.

Got off injectable test cypionate almost three weeks back cuz we want to have kids and I was completely shut down after six months on the injections.  Nolvadex and clomid to restart and things SEEM to be coming back to normal. Fingers crossed cuz I really screwed that one up - once you go on TRT long term, there is a good chance you need to be on it always as not everyone's system will restart after long term TRT.

Ironically enough, me and her are both now taking Clomid.

Anyhoo - be careful with this stuff.  

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smokey
2 hours ago, nothingbutquestions said:

It boils down to a matter of desire. How important it is to you. Raising T levels is vital to good health.

Clomid is the easiest. I've used it for years. 

Injectable T - if you can handle the needles and twice weekly injections.

The recipes for the DMSO mix are online. If you can mix a drink, you could do this, if you wanted. You are using drops applied to the skin and the mix you make from one vial of T will last you a year or more.

 

Clomid is the easy one to get any advise on does just to maint t levels

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smokey

If you want to waste time go to watsons they carry nothing maybe rose last time i saw clomid was generic pharmacy

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3 hours ago, smokey said:

If you want to waste time go to watsons they carry nothing maybe rose last time i saw clomid was generic pharmacy

Mercury usually has clomifene citrate - 50 mg pills are 100 pesos each.

A good thing about clomid is that it actually increases your own body's production of test.  It is not "replacing" it like gels or injections, so it won't shut your own system (yer balls) down.

One is advised to do a great deal of research on this stuff.  Some folks recommend 12.5 mg three times a week to start (M-W-F).  A doctor called Saya was involved in a good thread on dosage and concerns and the link is HERE:  

https://www.excelmale.com/showthread.php?6095-Are-guys-that-do-well-on-low-dose-clomid-unicorns-or-do-they-really-exist&highlight=unicor

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smokey

good read think I will do the low 12.5   3 days a week then cut to 2

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Rocketman

Looking forward to more comments about this.  I've been trying to set an appointment with a Internal Medicine/Endocrinology Doctor for a month.  It's so hard to talk with Doctors' receptionist.  Between the language barrier, the stupidity of most, the lack of answering the phone and difficulty in any information/communication here.  They mostly say just come in, wait in line to talk to the Doctor and only THEN do you even know if you're talking with the right Doctor who knows anything about T.  I will get it done one day.....

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1 hour ago, Rocketman said:

Looking forward to more comments about this.  I've been trying to set an appointment with a Internal Medicine/Endocrinology Doctor for a month.  It's so hard to talk with Doctors' receptionist.  Between the language barrier, the stupidity of most, the lack of answering the phone and difficulty in any information/communication here.  They mostly say just come in, wait in line to talk to the Doctor and only THEN do you even know if you're talking with the right Doctor who knows anything about T.  I will get it done one day.....

Before you go see the doctor, go to Hi-precision to have your testosterone levels tested (you might as well have them do a full blood panel but ask for testosterone to be checked specifically), so you have that to show the doctor. Otherwise, the doctor will have you go to the lab and do a return office visit (doubling your cost). No prescription is necessary for a blood test.

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Flakes
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2 hours ago, Rocketman said:

Looking forward to more comments about this.  I've been trying to set an appointment with a Internal Medicine/Endocrinology Doctor for a month.  It's so hard to talk with Doctors' receptionist.  Between the language barrier, the stupidity of most, the lack of answering the phone and difficulty in any information/communication here.  They mostly say just come in, wait in line to talk to the Doctor and only THEN do you even know if you're talking with the right Doctor who knows anything about T.  I will get it done one day.....

Can u ask him where here to order Andro gel?

I tried once a tablet of clomid and that is carbage would not give it to my worst enemy. ( or it was a fake) anyway i think Clomid is a medicine for ladies who want get pregnant.

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