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For me its just burn out... i am getting an IR-1 visa to send my wife to the US and get her green card, we will most likely get a cheap condo in reno nv and spend time in both places till we see which place is best for us... I will keep my house here for a while especially till the SRP has a super mall which will help in prices for the South side, and we bought some land up in the mountains and its a long process to get title...

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Morey you are right on. Already in my state California they actually had on the local news that for the first time ever they are seeing a sizeable number of illegals going back to Mexico. And in New York about a week ago, they said that a number of New Yorkers have left. What do NY and CA have in common? They are the two highest taxed states and with Obamacare, it will rise even more.

 

After ObamaCare becomes law and expensive rationed health care prevails, you will see more US retirees coming here for affordable no-wait treatment.

 

 

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After ObamaCare becomes law and expensive rationed health care prevails, you will see more US retirees coming here for affordable no-wait treatment.

 

 

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Yup, National Health care formula;;;; Congress + Phama lobbyists + Ins co. lobbyists etc etc = expensive disaster!!!

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After ObamaCare becomes law and expensive rationed health care prevails, you will see more US retirees coming here for affordable no-wait treatment.

 

 

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That's only if you have enough money left after the Communists (I mean Democrats) have taken their "share". :o

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Yup, National Health care formula;;;; Congress + Phama lobbyists + Ins co. lobbyists etc etc = expensive disaster!!!

 

We can all point the finger at Obama, but my take on this is that the U.S. economy just plain sucks! It's, for the time being, going down the tubes and Obama nor anyone else is going to be able to improve health care while that's happening. The unemployment rate is going to continue to skyrocket according to all economists reckoning until at least 2011; although my opinion is that they're whistling dixie to this estimate and that it will continue for much longer. With an ever increasing amount of people out of work and no confidence in the economy, means less purchasing power and less taxes for the government. Any promises handed out by Obama in regards to improving health care might as well be written on water.

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Bret..thumbsup.gif

 

 

That's only if you have enough money left after the Communists (I mean Democrats) have taken their "share". tongue_01.gif

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Nomad, you make very good solid points in that nothing, let alone health care will be truly fixed while the overall economy suffers. And I truly believe that President Obama means well, I really do. But just as Morey and Bret have pointed out, the way that Obama is doing it, raising taxes and making a new social welfare program will drive many to leave and come to places like the Philippines. I think he needs to focus on the economy, work on things that are broken in health care, and like you said around late 2010/11 maybe the economists are wrong, but hopefully not.

 

 

We can all point the finger at Obama, but my take on this is that the U.S. economy just plain sucks! It's, for the time being, going down the tubes and Obama nor anyone else is going to be able to improve health care while that's happening. The unemployment rate is going to continue to skyrocket according to all economists reckoning until at least 2011; although my opinion is that they're whistling dixie to this estimate and that it will continue for much longer. With an ever increasing amount of people out of work and no confidence in the economy, means less purchasing power and less taxes for the government. Any promises handed out by Obama in regards to improving health care might as well be written on water.

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But just as Morey and Bret have pointed out, the way that Obama is doing it, raising taxes and making a new social welfare program will drive many to leave and come to places like the Philippines.

 

You got that right!

 

That's one of the main reasons I am leaving the US and retiring in the Fils. I have other reasons, but that is in the top five.

 

What a time to create another socialist program paid for on the backs of the working man or woman.

 

I could have gone to Canada, but too cold most of the time. Could have gone to Mexico, but too many Mexicans. Europe is expensive. Southern hemisphere just seems "upside down" to me, being raised "right side up" all my life. Not sure I could get used to seeing my toiled "flush" the wrong way. :D

 

That leaves Asia.

 

So, where would an English speaking, Christian, white boy retire in Asia that's cheap enough to live comfortably on a semi-fixed income? Hmmmm...where indeed. :o

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What will suck is that the US will work to keep the dollar low as long as possible. The PI got spoilt on big money from Koreans, and the Koreans will probably be back spending before we do.

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This topic is a primary reason as to why this forum exists.

 

For years now, the most important advice I have given regarding moving here from any western country, is to come here and "try it on for size". You will never see me trying to convince anyone to liquidate their entire lives in the west, encouraging them to move here, especially if they have never visited the Philippines. No one has the right to do that. But, I have seen others who own Philippines related sites who did exactly that. They encourage people to sell everything they have, pack their bags and come here to live. Of course, anyone who falls for such advice and actually buys into it, is naive and ignorant.

 

However, I am glad to see that people are doing more research on the Philippines, and elsewhere in the world, prior to making their first trip, especially Americans. We (Americans) aren't known for our world travels and many are quite ignorant of the "real" world around us. (Ask any American to describe what the Canadian Flag looks like. Most will not be able to tell you.) We also believe too much of what the liberal news media throws at us. Even those from other countries, people who do travel much more than we, like the Scandinavians and Europeans for example, are doing more research online before taking their first trip. With the internet as it has become today, we (those of us on the ground here) can actually offer newbies the information they seek. We can share with them our personal experiences, which will help them make their decisions for retirement and/or relocation much easier.

 

But, even with all the planning we can do, living in the Philippines isn't for everyone. I have seen many guys come and go. Some went back because they didn't want to live on a level beneath what they were accustomed to, after the Philippine Piso gained against the US Dollar. Others found they couldn't deal with a culture that was so different from their own. Logic processes... I won't even go there. More foreigners couldn't handle the heat as they thought they could. Other people couldn't learn how to play the game here. Another reason I have seen people leave here for, was to take a child to the west so he or she could get a better education. Even that is suspect in my mind, because I don't know how "good" educational institutions are in the west, nowadays. Anyway, for whatever reason(s), these various foreigners packed their toys, boarded a plane on the Mactan-Cebu International Airport tarmac, and waved "bye bye" to Cebu, and to us, forever.

 

So be it. If you can't hack living here, go home. As a foreigner you always have that choice. This isn't a negative reflection on anyone, as some can deal with it while others can't. I won't fault anyone for giving up and going home. If it isn't your cup of tuba, drink something else. For me, however, it's a different story.

 

I came to the Philippines to stay permanently very early on in this decade. I came with the attitude that I was going to do what it took to live here, hands down. I would be the one who would adapt and adjust. I would be the one who would change. I would be the one who would accept the Filipino culture as my own, for the most part anyway. I come from parents who were tough and could handle anything that came their way. I see no reason to be anything different.

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